KVR Audio

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Mon May 24, 2021 6:48 am

The sound at 6 min 10 sec.

Is this just yet another variation on some "orchestra hit" sample and if so does it have a more exact name?
Or could it be something completely different?
I've heard this sound in a couple of songs.

Lotuz2019 · Post by **Lotuz2019** » Mon May 24, 2021 7:21 am

Classic eighties orchestra hit. Fairlight CMI and/or Emulator.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Mon May 24, 2021 10:07 am

One of these:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TEohvxCyp68

The most used ones were named ORCH2 and ORCH5.

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Tue May 25, 2021 11:15 am

I couldn't find it so far. It's none of the standard ones. It must be something else.

Lotuz2019 · Post by **Lotuz2019** » Tue May 25, 2021 12:45 pm

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Tue May 25, 2021 12:53 pm

note d5 produces a somewhat similar sound but not THE sound.
It's a different sound.

Lotuz2019 · Post by **Lotuz2019** » Tue May 25, 2021 1:08 pm

Maybe you could ask the artist himself?

https://soundcloud.com/leemarrow

Let us know the answer, okay?

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Tue May 25, 2021 1:42 pm

How can I contact him? Do you have an email address?

Otherwise I still hope for someone to recognize the sample and be able to give details.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Tue May 25, 2021 1:52 pm

juno987654321 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:42 pm How can I contact him?

leave a comment on the track asking him

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue May 25, 2021 2:15 pm

juno987654321 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:53 pm note d5 produces a somewhat similar sound but not THE sound.
It's a different sound.

I disagree (that "Fleet Fleet" sound is definitely a Fairlight, either ORCH2 or ORCH5) but whatever.

Just never EVER let any of us listen to horrible out of tune Italo mixes again, OK? That's plain wrong. They're supposed to be mixed out of sync, not out of key.

Viktor [TUC] · Post by **Viktor [TUC]** » Tue May 25, 2021 3:01 pm

It's the Fairlight Orch Hit sample.
You're correct, D5 produces a similar sound but not THE sound.
Hit D4 plus D5 to get the identical sound.

Right-click this to download mp3 example

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Tue May 25, 2021 3:34 pm

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The unshushable Coktor wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:01 pm It's the Fairlight Orch Hit sample.
You're correct, D5 produces a similar sound but not THE sound.
Hit D4 plus D5 to get the identical sound.

Right-click this to download mp3 example

OK, the sample you sent convinces me.

However, it still won't help me without the further information/details I need:
What plugin(s) did you use and what's the name of the sound in it?
I'd like to understand why it did not work in the programs I used, even when I tried doubled octaves or chords.
(Arturia's CMI, different sf2 files, vst Orch Hit Synth, ...)

Viktor [TUC] · Post by **Viktor [TUC]** » Tue May 25, 2021 5:01 pm

Arturia's CMI will work just fine with the "Orch2" preset, I've used UVI's Darklight IIx, but it's always the same sample, so it shouldn't matter where you take it from.
I added a short reverb, lots of it though, and set the Release time very short so the sample is cut off when I release the key - Then played D4+D5 in quick succession, "ba-dam", felt closer to what you posted. Then used a highpass filter to remove the low end, and a lowpass filter to remove the high end. Added generous amounts of resonance on the low pass to add that piercing frequency peak. No magic here, as you can tell, just basic adjustments to mimick the source.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue May 25, 2021 5:04 pm

Found a good video describing the required processing here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7uHIy_Pwo9o

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Tue May 25, 2021 5:31 pm

The unshushable Coktor wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:01 pm Arturia's CMI will work just fine with the "Orch2" preset, I've used UVI's Darklight IIx, but it's always the same sample, so it shouldn't matter where you take it from.
I added a short reverb, lots of it though, and set the Release time very short so the sample is cut off when I release the key - Then played D4+D5 in quick succession, "ba-dam", felt closer to what you posted. Then used a highpass filter to remove the low end, and a lowpass filter to remove the high end. Added generous amounts of resonance on the low pass to add that piercing frequency peak. No magic here, as you can tell, just basic adjustments to mimick the source.

Yeees, this is MUCH more like it!
Some heavy processing IS definately necessary to get this exact sound which may be loosely BASED on the orch2 sample, but really only based on it. It's definately not just "hit 2 keys and you'll have the sound". So thank you VERY much for THIS kind of information. I'll definately try to reconstruct THIS kind of thing now to understand it better myself. This is what I call helpful information, the kind of thing I was looking for.

What's this sample called?