Lol. I came here just now to write the same thing.metalifuxx wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:27 pmNever knew about the Oil Can phaser and now i want one but you can’t find them anywhere now, not even used.jens wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 8:27 pmYay, Hawkwind, they rule!vurt wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 7:41 pm im going to assume, like me, jens has a more rock sound as "the small stone sound"
he'll probably go prog, ill go space rock! hawkwind!!!
although, they also used the p90 at times.
probably used both at once at some point, they had one on pretty much every instrument! very phaserr heavy some hw songs![]()
(And so do Ozric Tentacles by the way)
Yes, well, I read some claims that the Small Stone of today sounds very different at least to the Small Stone of way way back... this is said to be due to the rarity of some of the components that were used in the earlier circuits...
I have a Truetone GarageTone Oil Can and they claim that...
When we were first thinking about making a phaser, we pulled in a bunch of old and new phasers from other companies to see which sounded the best to our ears. One of the guys in the office brought in an old “Electra” phaser from the mid 70’s which sounded better than anything else we tried. We did some research on it and found out that it was actually made by Electro-Harmonix for the Electra Guitar Company around 1975-76 and was, in fact, a re-housed Small Stone. We compared it to a Small Stone and it didn’t sound anything like it… the old one sounded infinitely better.
The reason why E-H changed the circuit over the years is that the main chips used in the old version haven’t been made for decades. Undaunted by that inconvenient fact, I gave the old circuit to our chief engineer, R.G. Keen, and asked him to figure out a way to use some equivalent chips to work in a similar circuit to re-create the sound of the Electra pedal. It was a tall order, but he figured it out and after a few tweaks, we had the Garagetone Oil Can Phaser and yes, it sounds just like that old Electra Phaser from the 70’s.
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- KVRAF
- 2514 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
- KVRAF
- 25037 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Oh, I am sorry - I didn't even know that they're discontinued - sorry about that... it seems there's still a few available from some smaller shops all over the world though - such as this Italian one for instance:
https://semstrumenti.it/site/effetti-ch ... 738,375394
It's their last one.
https://semstrumenti.it/site/effetti-ch ... 738,375394
It's their last one.
- addled muppet weed
- 111311 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
damn thats a good price too!jens wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 6:36 pm Oh, I am sorry - I didn't even know that they're discontinued - sorry about that... it seems there's still a few available from some smaller shops all over the world though - such as this Italian one for instance:
https://semstrumenti.it/site/effetti-ch ... 738,375394
It's their last one.
- KVRAF
- 25037 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
When I got mine it really wasn't very expensive either - otherwise I might have gotten the Malekko Phase instead (I have their Trem, which is fabulous).
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Where can I find that one? Took a look in the Reaktor 6 factory library, and in the modules. No luck.alienmachine wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 10:09 pm For Jarre fans like me, Reaktor's Kleinstein is the closer to a SmallStone phaser I have found and it predates BigRock by some years.
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- KVRist
- 163 posts since 6 Oct, 2018
I too am a Jarre fan I have the Mikron Phaser,and there's a tutorial on their website showing how to achieve the Jarre effect.chk071 wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:10 pmWhere can I find that one? Took a look in the Reaktor 6 factory library, and in the modules. No luck.alienmachine wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 10:09 pm For Jarre fans like me, Reaktor's Kleinstein is the closer to a SmallStone phaser I have found and it predates BigRock by some years.
