Are there any Spectral/Additive EQs that can boost frequencies that aren’t present in the signal?
- KVRian
- 939 posts since 31 May, 2017
What I’m imagining is an EQ that uses additive synthesis to boost frequencies that are above (or maybe also below) what is present in the signal based on the frequency content of what is. For example you have a sound that has a steep cutoff at about 500hz and very little information above that but you would like to add some frequency content in the 2k to 4K range, then this EQ would generate frequencies in that area that are harmonically related to the fundamental of the sound that is present. So you can boost octaves or even or odd harmonics or whatever other customizations.
Does this kind of thing exist?
And to be clear, I am not talking about those automatic, make it sound good gizmos like gulfoss and zynaptiq’s intensity and that kind of thing. I’m talking about being able to target specific frequency ranges like a normal EQ.
Does this kind of thing exist?
And to be clear, I am not talking about those automatic, make it sound good gizmos like gulfoss and zynaptiq’s intensity and that kind of thing. I’m talking about being able to target specific frequency ranges like a normal EQ.
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- KVRAF
- 1616 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
Maybe have a look at Wavesfactory Spectre:
https://www.wavesfactory.com/audio-plugins/spectre/
https://www.wavesfactory.com/audio-plugins/spectre/
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 939 posts since 31 May, 2017
That looks like it might be able to do a similar kind of trick but in a very different way. Not sure it how dramatic and focused the results would be but it definitely looks interesting on its own terms.adl wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:15 pm Maybe have a look at Wavesfactory Spectre:
https://www.wavesfactory.com/audio-plugins/spectre/
It looks like it’s just a multi-band exciter with a paragraphic EQ workflow. Which is a pretty cool idea!
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
I love Spectre for what it does, but it sounds like you want very precise control of targeted frequencies and subsequent harmonics produced from those frequencies - and Spectre isn't *that* sophisticated.
Maybe...


Or something else in the Melda lineup?
Zynaptiq do go pretty deep on spectral synthesis - I only have Adaptiverb though so I don't know.
Maybe...


Or something else in the Melda lineup?
Zynaptiq do go pretty deep on spectral synthesis - I only have Adaptiverb though so I don't know.
- KVRAF
- 9584 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
If you boost something which isn’t there, it still doesn’t appear. You first need to add it.
One technique which does this is an exciter, for example the first one was the Aural Exciter. The technique behind it is distortion. You add harmonics based on lower frequencies which are present in the signal. With distortion/waveshaping you also create all sorts of cross modulated artifacts you need to tame with filters. Not trivial...
For monophonic signals its easier, and there are tools wich analyze the pitch and then resynthesize with that information. Pitch to Midi to Synth...
One technique which does this is an exciter, for example the first one was the Aural Exciter. The technique behind it is distortion. You add harmonics based on lower frequencies which are present in the signal. With distortion/waveshaping you also create all sorts of cross modulated artifacts you need to tame with filters. Not trivial...
For monophonic signals its easier, and there are tools wich analyze the pitch and then resynthesize with that information. Pitch to Midi to Synth...
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 18 Jun, 2010
Voxengo TEOTE ftw!
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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
I was playing with this today to see if I could come up with something for the OP - I tried harmonisers and resonators and pitchshifters with various distortions and filters. The results were not all that great - ok using something like ElastiquePitch V2 where formants and pitch can be played with. One of the problems is getting a decent simple envelope for the added material, another is picking which frequencies one wants, and as you mention getting the eq right is not trivial. A fun excursion but not how I would handle a problem like this in my own work. I would be much more likely to layer another instrument or sound to fill whatever part of the spectrum I thought was missingTj Shredder wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 5:22 am If you boost something which isn’t there, it still doesn’t appear. You first need to add it.
One technique which does this is an exciter, for example the first one was the Aural Exciter. The technique behind it is distortion. You add harmonics based on lower frequencies which are present in the signal. With distortion/waveshaping you also create all sorts of cross modulated artifacts you need to tame with filters. Not trivial...
For monophonic signals its easier, and there are tools wich analyze the pitch and then resynthesize with that information. Pitch to Midi to Synth...
- KVRAF
- 9584 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I think I heard about some AI based techniques to add to dull sounds missing highs. But can’t remember where. That could be an option on “normal” music. (The network needs to be trained with existing standard music...)
- KVRAF
- 6288 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
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