Bitwig Studio 4 announced (+beta available)!

[machinesworking]

Also, Apple will most definitely drop Rosetta 2 in the next OS version or two. The same fate as Rosetta 1. (RIP)

Yup, that is the other reason. Any plugins that don't port are eventually toast.

This is a solid reason. Having been around for the PPC to Intel transition, some projects were pretty messed up by me not getting to saving the state of the DAW in the PPC version to something that translated to the Intel version. This will inevitably be true for some people with this transition as well.

[jens]

WTF??? They list support for Apple Silicon as a major new feature for V4? That's beyond absurd!

that's native support, there is no other DAW natively support Apple Silicon except Logic Pro right now.

Nonetheless I would not call this a feature in the first place, since it's not something you could ever make any use of or are in any way affected by if you do not own a computer that uses on such a CPU - how significant it may ever appear to some.

[pdxindy]

WTF??? They list support for Apple Silicon as a major new feature for V4? That's beyond absurd!

that's native support, there is no other DAW natively support Apple Silicon except Logic Pro right now.

Nonetheless I would not call this a feature in the first place, since it's not something you could ever make any use of or are in any way affected by if you do not own a computer that uses on such a CPU - how significant it may ever appear to some.

Fine, don't call it a feature, whatever, but it is a significant capability of the software and various companies (not just music related) have made a deal of announcing M1 support.

[EvilDragon]

WTF??? They list support for Apple Silicon as a major new feature for V4? That's beyond absurd!

that's native support, there is no other DAW natively support Apple Silicon except Logic Pro right now.

Reaper has ARM support in beta.

[EnGee]

WTF??? They list support for Apple Silicon as a major new feature for V4? That's beyond absurd!

that's native support, there is no other DAW natively support Apple Silicon except Logic Pro right now.

Reaper has ARM support in beta.

And works great! But can't see all the plugs I installed! I have now 3 DAWs working with M1 native

Just one question, are those native DAWs see only the native M1 plugins? Some of the plugins I installed, I'm not so sure if I installed the native M1 or Rosetta's ones! Some sites are not very clear about the downloads.

[apoclypse]

So like I mentioned, with the way selections are now in Bitwig what you selected can be globally changed and by carefully grabbing the volume or solo, mute, etc. you can still adjust things in the selection whilst retaining the global selection. It's almost like VCA faders. In a DAW like Live I don't see any way to do this? I'm messing with it right now and selected items all conform to the global selection no matter what modifier key I press. so in more complex selctions of tracks you're having to deselect then reselect to do the same thing you can do in one step in Bitwig. IMO it's slight complexity that doesn't sacrifice features, to use the Info panel for global selections.

Right but that doesn't address things like being able to drag and drop effects across multiple channels which you can't really do in Bitwig now, or affect sends across multiple channels which you can't do in Bitwig now. With the way things work now it would be very difficult and complex to do these things from the inspector.

Looking at DAWs I own personally DP, Logic, Reaper, Live and Bitwig, none of them do what you want. Unless I'm misunderstanding, I'm on Live 10, but you can't drag effects to multiple channels in Live either. None of the other DAWs here automatically place the VST on multiple tracks if multiple tracks are selected. Which DAW do you use that you're looking at this and wishing Bitwig did it this way?

Logic definitely does it, S1 does it too. I believe Cubase does it. ProTools definitely does it. I don't use Reaper so I have no clue what that does. Live doesn't do it but as many people like to point out Live is doing its own thing most of the time, but even it has the ability to select multiple tracks and affect sends for selected tracks.

Here is Logic:


and here is Studio One:


Ableton Live multiple sends:


Now Bitwig:

[machinesworking]

Logic definitely does it, S1 does it too. I believe Cubase does it. ProTools definitely does it. I don't use Reaper so I have no clue what that does. Live doesn't do it but as many people like to point out Live is doing its own thing most of the time, but even it has the ability to select multiple tracks and affect sends for selected tracks.

Interesting about Logic, in earlier versions you have to set up group tracks to do that with faders. It's weird being a noob in it again, because things other people get stuck in I remember from years ago, but things like this are improvements I never saw. In DP it's holding the t key sets a temporary group. I totally see the benefit of being able to apply the same plug in to multiple tracks, but I still think it's better to be able to select tracks for multiple fader adjustment from the Info panel because of the ability to make individual fader adjustments without deselecting those tracks. So I'm half there with you, I think it would be cool if Bitwig had these sort of template building features in terms of dumping in EQs etc.but if they did make it that faders all moved in unison when you had them all selected I would 100% want a key shortcut to override it temporarily for a fader that's selected already. Basically I hate the way Live does it.

[THE INTRANCER]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

[pdxindy]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

I hope that is a joke...

[antic604]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

[kmonkey]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

[SLiC]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

I hope that is a joke...

I doubt it...

To be honest I remember thinking it was pretty cool when I first used Studio One, now I have it turned off! Only DAW it is useful in is Reason so you can see what VST is in the rack (Reason always had pictures of the instruments )

[antic604]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

I hope that is a joke...

I doubt it...

I'm sure it wasnt.

From the same mind - behold a redesign of Reason's mixer:

[chk071]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

I hope that is a joke...

It's working surprisingly well for quicker and easier identification and selection of instruments or fx.

I definitely think every DAW should have it. Most have now.

[EnGee]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

I know what are you talking about. This is old fashioned now! Instead, you can use colours

I use: Red for Drums, Yellow for Bass, Blue for FM/Additive/Wavetable ..etc synths, Green for analog synths and Grey/White for Piano or other traditional sounds. I find it easier with colours than images.