Bitwig Studio 4 announced (+beta available)!

[chk071]

Pretty sure he means the plugin selection, not the tracks in the song.

[EnGee]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

I hope that is a joke...

I doubt it...

I'm sure it wasnt.

From the same mind - behold a redesign of Reason's mixer:

Your hard disk is fragmented! You need defragmentation tool

[pdxindy]

Bitwig at version 4 and still with no thumbnail images for VST instruments and effects... I mean really ? It's half way through 2021...

I hope that is a joke...

It's working surprisingly well for quicker and easier identification and selection of instruments or fx.

I definitely think every DAW should have it. Most have now.

What a total waste of space and development time for Bitwig. In Bitwig, I add instruments and fx with keystrokes and it is already done before someone could even look at the first image or two.

[chk071]

Good for you. And good for others that you are not the center of the world.

If it was just some random bullcrap, then nobody would have implemented it. It's not like hanging up a picture in the living room, you know. It adds some actual ease of use.

[anttimaatteri]

i remain unconvinced for the 4. maybe 5 then.

[pdxindy]

If it was just some random bullcrap, then nobody would have implemented it.

DAW's are running out of useful stuff to add to keep having paid updates... so someone added random bullcrap like vst graphics. Other DAW's followed suit cause they were also running out of ideas.

Fortunately, Bitwig made a way to add instruments and fx that is much fast and easier than scrolling a long list of images.

[antic604]

i remain unconvinced for the 4. maybe 5 then.

Between now and 5 there will be 3-4 substantial releases as Bitwig always does, so hopefully sooner

[SLiC]

If it was just some random bullcrap, then nobody would have implemented it.

DAW's are running out of useful stuff to add to keep having paid updates... so someone added random bullcrap like vst graphics. Other DAW's followed suit cause they were also running out of ideas.

Fortunately, Bitwig made a way to add instruments and fx that is much fast and easier than scrolling a long list of images.

The smart pop up browser in Bitwig is simply faster than pictures then when you have a lot of VSTs ( ) it takes for ever to scroll through hundreds of pictures when you can only see a dozen or so on screen at any one time. It looks pretty, it isn't actually very practical in my opinion...like I say, I turned it off in S1. In Reason its useful when a VST is in a wrapper as you can see what it is in the rack, so there may be reason to have it down the line in Bitwig (for example, a VSTs in the grid with a little snapshot top remind you) but no other reason I can think of.

[pdxindy]

If it was just some random bullcrap, then nobody would have implemented it.

DAW's are running out of useful stuff to add to keep having paid updates... so someone added random bullcrap like vst graphics. Other DAW's followed suit cause they were also running out of ideas.

Fortunately, Bitwig made a way to add instruments and fx that is much fast and easier than scrolling a long list of images.

The smart pop up browser in Bitwig is simply faster than pictures then when you have a lot of VSTs ( ) it takes for ever to scroll through hundreds of pictures when you can only see a dozen or so on screen at any one time. It looks pretty, it isn't actually very practical in my opinion...like I say, I turned it off in S1. In Reason its useful when a VST is in a wrapper as you can see what it is in the rack, so there may be reason to have it down the line in Bitwig (for example, a VSTs in the grid with a little snapshot top remind you) but no other reason I can think of.

In Bitwig, if I want to add Hive... popup the browser, type 'h' and 'i', hit down arrow and return. Literally 2 seconds...

Scrolling through a list of say 70 plugin images could be as much as 10 times slower.

[SLiC]

Who only has 70 VSTs?
BANNED

[pdxindy]

Who only has 70 VSTs?
BANNED

:hangs head in shame: I rounded up...

[apoclypse]

If it was just some random bullcrap, then nobody would have implemented it.

DAW's are running out of useful stuff to add to keep having paid updates... so someone added random bullcrap like vst graphics. Other DAW's followed suit cause they were also running out of ideas.

Fortunately, Bitwig made a way to add instruments and fx that is much fast and easier than scrolling a long list of images.

The smart pop up browser in Bitwig is simply faster than pictures then when you have a lot of VSTs ( ) it takes for ever to scroll through hundreds of pictures when you can only see a dozen or so on screen at any one time. It looks pretty, it isn't actually very practical in my opinion...like I say, I turned it off in S1. In Reason its useful when a VST is in a wrapper as you can see what it is in the rack, so there may be reason to have it down the line in Bitwig (for example, a VSTs in the grid with a little snapshot top remind you) but no other reason I can think of.

In Bitwig, if I want to add Hive... popup the browser, type 'h' and 'i', hit down arrow and return. Literally 2 seconds...

Scrolling through a list of say 70 plugin images could be as much as 10 times slower.

Not to mention the ever growing list of devices, modulators, etc built into Bitwig itself. It would be a nightmare to deal with.

[syntonica]

Who only has 70 VSTs?
BANNED

:hangs head in shame: I rounded up...

Ha! When I finally go Apple M1, I'm pruning the list down to under 10. I just don't use or need all that clutter I've managed to buy at fire sale prices.

[anttimaatteri]

i remain unconvinced for the 4. maybe 5 then.

Between now and 5 there will be 3-4 substantial releases as Bitwig always does, so hopefully sooner

of course^^. but i dont think they will dish out a feature like capture with a point release^^

[xbitz]

If it was just some random bullcrap, then nobody would have implemented it.

DAW's are running out of useful stuff to add to keep having paid updates... so someone added random bullcrap like vst graphics. Other DAW's followed suit cause they were also running out of ideas.

Fortunately, Bitwig made a way to add instruments and fx that is much fast and easier than scrolling a long list of images.

The smart pop up browser in Bitwig is simply faster than pictures then when you have a lot of VSTs ( ) it takes for ever to scroll through hundreds of pictures when you can only see a dozen or so on screen at any one time. It looks pretty, it isn't actually very practical in my opinion...like I say, I turned it off in S1. In Reason its useful when a VST is in a wrapper as you can see what it is in the rack, so there may be reason to have it down the line in Bitwig (for example, a VSTs in the grid with a little snapshot top remind you) but no other reason I can think of.

In Bitwig, if I want to add Hive... popup the browser, type 'h' and 'i', hit down arrow and return. Literally 2 seconds...

Scrolling through a list of say 70 plugin images could be as much as 10 times slower.

Not to mention the ever growing list of devices, modulators, etc built into Bitwig itself. It would be a nightmare to deal with.

almost using exclusively (from the browser only the recent ones section) the PManager and drag and dropping in S1 too, so not a question which is the more effective one

with shortkeyed is almost the same as in BWS just it isn't smart so Hive H+i and S1 too (+1 click inside the plugin list window)