Will you buy high quality wireless mouse for using with DAW?
- KVRian
- 1114 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
I use both types, wireless and wired. Wireless works best in RF. It is a bit irritating when the mouse suddenly get sluggish because it takes a while to remember that it is a wireless mouse with a battery that needs checking.
I prefer wireless with my laptop. Trackpads don't agree with me. I think my fingers is too dry.
I switch hands using the mouse when i feel musclepain. Awkward at first but now it works fine, and that is without switching the buttons. For some reason i selected mouse that fit left/right hand use before i started use both hands.
I've bought a Logitech G602 wireless gaming mouse but not started using it yet.
The reason to buy it was the fact that it has 11 buttons. I hope it shall be useful in my daw when editing, to have keyboard shortcuts assigned to the buttons.
I prefer wireless with my laptop. Trackpads don't agree with me. I think my fingers is too dry.
I switch hands using the mouse when i feel musclepain. Awkward at first but now it works fine, and that is without switching the buttons. For some reason i selected mouse that fit left/right hand use before i started use both hands.
I've bought a Logitech G602 wireless gaming mouse but not started using it yet.
The reason to buy it was the fact that it has 11 buttons. I hope it shall be useful in my daw when editing, to have keyboard shortcuts assigned to the buttons.
- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Everyone's experience is different. I can honestly say I've never had the batteries go dead on my studio mouse while in the middle of working. I can't even remember the last time I changed them.syntonica wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:11 am And yet, I've been bitten several times before by this issue, both at work and at home. So, I avoid "battery operated" wherever there's a wired option available for petty much anything.
Like I said just not having to drag the mouse tail around while doing patch programming, mixing, etc is worth it for me so I'll always use a wireless mouse for my studio.
Gaming is different as I still use a wired mouse on that system even though the tail is much more of an issue. I probably should shop around to see if there is a competent wireless gaming mouse.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 2473 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
I haven't used one in a while, but there used to be awesome trackball mice that you didn't have to slide around all over the place. If I wasn't all laptop these days (no room for a desktop with monitor) I'd check into the state of those.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
- KVRAF
- 5646 posts since 15 Dec, 2011
Not a long time ago I got a Razer Basilisk X Hyperspeed on Bluetooth to free a USB port on my laptop. Cheap (on sale), surprisingly sturdy, one battery. I liked it so much, I since bought a second one.
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- KVRist
- 187 posts since 6 Jun, 2019
They used to have them in 25€ mice 15 years ago.chk071 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 10:51 am They already have very precise sensors in 40 € mice these days.
Says the marketing. :)chk071 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 10:51 amIf anything, the gaming mice should actually be better in that regard, because, equally priced "office" mice usually have lower resolution and refresh rates.
You don't need pixel-precise control, ever, or you're doing something wrong. Zoom in or use the fine/coarse toggle on your knobs.
Even if some older mice have lower polling rates you can increase it with regedit. Not that you'd need 1000Hz polling to control your DAW.
- KVRAF
- 11327 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
That dial is lovely! I had high hopes for the Logitech Craft to bring something similar to MacOS but without scripting something, it’ll never anywhere as useful as that dial.lpr wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:58 pm I use a Razor mouse and a Microsoft Surface Dial. Pivotal for my workflow.
I have an MX Master connected via Bluetooth. If you have to go wireless, use the dongle or else it’s better to stay wired like so many in this thread.
The only reason (IMO) for wireless is the aesthetics.
Charging is as advertised, something like once a month and unlike the Magic Mouse, you can charge this while using (and then it’s a wired mouse).
I have had many different ones and the biggest difference is just some added buttons, ergonomics and this one at least is very quiet, which is great in a shared space.
The MX Master 3 is overkill because many of the selling points are not things you can’t readily get in a cheaper mouse.
It’ll work best on a Windows computer. The scrolling is a little strange on a Mac. I’ve mostly gotten used to it, but I had it the version before it became MX series. The earlier one I got maybe 9-10 years ago? The MX Master 3 I picked up last year as the previous one stopped working.
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- KVRist
- 256 posts since 9 Jun, 2018
I use to be firmly in the need to be wired for gaming, but the wireless tech has gotten so good. The latest Logitech gaming mice are just as good as wired. Although I haven't tried, I'm sure the Razor ones are just as good too.Teksonik wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:57 pm Like I said just not having to drag the mouse tail around while doing patch programming, mixing, etc is worth it for me so I'll always use a wireless mouse for my studio.
Gaming is different as I still use a wired mouse on that system even though the tail is much more of an issue. I probably should shop around to see if there is a competent wireless gaming mouse.
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- KVRist
- 187 posts since 6 Jun, 2019
I'll believe it when someone in a top-tier Quake tournament uses a wireless mouse. Until then, I'm sure they're "pretty close." :prageix wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:01 pm I use to be firmly in the need to be wired for gaming, but the wireless tech has gotten so good. The latest Logitech gaming mice are just as good as wired.
- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Taken from the link below....
"The good news about the best wireless gaming mouse is there's no longer any sacrifice for gaming cable-free. The differences between the best wireless gaming mice and the best wired mice are pretty trivial at this point. Latency and accuracy are altogether unaffected by going wireless, and the latest models are up there with the best gaming mice around".
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-wireless-gaming-mouse/
"The good news about the best wireless gaming mouse is there's no longer any sacrifice for gaming cable-free. The differences between the best wireless gaming mice and the best wired mice are pretty trivial at this point. Latency and accuracy are altogether unaffected by going wireless, and the latest models are up there with the best gaming mice around".
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-wireless-gaming-mouse/
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRist
- 256 posts since 9 Jun, 2018
You aren't totally wrong, they aren't the same, however the wireless transmission time on the Logitech G Pro mouse is 1ms. As an example on a gaming monitor running at 144 hz refresh rate, you'd have a new frame every 6.94 ms or so. There is no way you can even perceive the lag and it certainly would not be any kind of limiting factor.stearine wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:41 pm I'll believe it when someone in a top-tier Quake tournament uses a wireless mouse. Until then, I'm sure they're "pretty close." :p
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- KVRAF
- 11327 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
What I'll add to this wireless discussion it much of it depends on if you have other gear on your desk. I have issues from time to time with both the dongle version and Bluetooth version of Logitech's gear (keyboard and mouse(s)).
There are lots of interruptions depending on what's on my desk at any given time, so wired would be the better option in my case.
If the only thing on your desk is your mouse and computer, then there's likely no issues.
There are lots of interruptions depending on what's on my desk at any given time, so wired would be the better option in my case.
If the only thing on your desk is your mouse and computer, then there's likely no issues.
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- KVRist
- 187 posts since 6 Jun, 2019
I appreciate digging up the link, but tech/game journalism is nigh indistinguishable from advertising to such extent that I not only take it with a pinch of salt - I presume it to be a flat-out lie. I've found it to be a sane presupposition when it comes time to compare the image with reality. So my original criteria is still in effect. :)Teksonik wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:43 pm Taken from the link below....
"The good news about the best wireless gaming mouse is there's no longer any sacrifice for gaming cable-free. The differences between the best wireless gaming mice and the best wired mice are pretty trivial at this point. Latency and accuracy are altogether unaffected by going wireless, and the latest models are up there with the best gaming mice around".
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-wireless-gaming-mouse/
- addled muppet weed
- 111300 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRist
- 187 posts since 6 Jun, 2019
This is a rather meaningless specification in isolation. I am not familiar with the transmission protocol and what the specs are even based on and whether they've been verified by an independent entity.rageix wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:53 pm You aren't totally wrong, they aren't the same, however the wireless transmission time on the Logitech G Pro mouse is 1ms.
I also don't bother myself with this question as I don't play even semi-competitively. It's just that when I did, I tended to be the one who could tell if there was any sort of latency present on input devices or displays, even when my friends (also gamers) couldn't tell. So I simply don't believe anyone anymore! Also, my original criteria of Qualified by Quake is simple enough. :)