Reason 12 announced

[apoclypse]

Yes, I have the current version of Studio One an£ an ATOM SQ!

I am referring to the Reason Players, in particular the Drum Sequencer (but there are lots of others). You can just drop this on any Reason or VST drum device, works great with XO drum! Very easy to get some great patterns going then send to track for further editing.

S1 has a pattern editor/step sequencer. Why not just use that?

I was looking for this on my install and then realized that Drum Machine sequencer it's not part of my version of Reason 11. That really sucks. Another plus for S1 for me I don't have to pay extra for something as simple as a freaking pattern sequencer.

[THE INTRANCER]

I found this on my drive... Long before VST instruments came into play... In any case I think some way reduce clutter but include features, would be a modular GUI design. Notice the step-time edit mode on the sequencer as well.

[SLiC]

Yes, I have the current version of Studio One an£ an ATOM SQ!

I am referring to the Reason Players, in particular the Drum Sequencer (but there are lots of others). You can just drop this on any Reason or VST drum device, works great with XO drum! Very easy to get some great patterns going then send to track for further editing.

S1 has a pattern editor/step sequencer. Why not just use that?

I was looking for this on my install and then realized that Drum Machine sequencer it's not part of my version of Reason 11. That really sucks. Another plus for S1 for me I don't have to pay extra for something as simple as a freaking pattern sequencer.

I do use it, As I said I have the ATOM SQ as an input device, they work very nicely mimicking a hardware step sequencer. That said, S1 is what I boot up to record bands/ live instruments based music, if it was just me doing my stuff and was ITB I would probably be using Bitwig or Live anyway, I just find them more fun, more creative and left field....

I only got Reason Suite (that includes all the players except mutator I think) last week in the Sale ( upgrade from 11 with a free 12 was about 150 bucks).

Reason can do a lot more ‘tricks’ than the step sequencer in S1 but it’s a different way of working....it’s as much about the players, fx and instruments (the rack) and the way they can be patched and combined as it is the sequencer, and it can of course be used in S1!

[EnochLight]

LOL! Good grief - it couldn’t get much easier. You guys are hilarious.

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

Are we in a DAW war? Cannot even participate in such. I have not tried much but Reason. Orion is gone. The time spent with Sonar was in its crash fest period. The Cubase LE that began the whole thing is long forgotten. Garageband and Logic Pro X did not turn out to be me either. Thus I have not tried the modern competitors yet. If it ain't broken.....

[EnochLight]

Are we in a DAW war? Cannot even participate in such. I have not tried much but Reason. Orion is gone. The time spent with Sonar was in its crash fest period. The Cubase LE that began the whole thing is long forgotten. Garageband and Logic Pro X did not turn out to be me either. Thus I have not tried the modern competitors yet. If it ain't broken.....

Nah, no war. It's just a given at KVR: for any Reason thread, users of other DAW's are bound to chime in and start posting about how bad Reason is and how awesome alternative DAW X is. I was just having a little fun a page back because it's so predictable.

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

for any Reason thread, users of other DAW's are bound to chime in and start posting about how bad Reason is

Then they are liars and not worth paying attention to.

[EnochLight]

Then they are liars and not worth paying attention to.

I wouldn't call them liars, per se. Everyone has their own preferences and experiences and prefer their own working environment. What works for one may not work for someone else. What's weird is chiming in to other DAW threads and making a stink. That's just... weird, IMHO.

[antic604]

for any Reason thread, users of other DAW's are bound to chime in and start posting about how bad Reason is

Then they are liars and not worth paying attention to.

That's not just for Reason. Bitwig has its own sub-forum here and there are constantly several Ableton users coming there to express how bad Bitwig does this or that, but it's not coming from the place of care and hope for improvement, but rather to imply it's inferior at something.

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

If not liars, spoiled then. I was there when we overdubbed on Tascam four tracks until noise was the only thing breaking through. Modern DAWs are all miracles compared to then. It is all in the eyes of the beholder - except Reason; it superiority is a scientific fact

[jancivil]

"rather to imply it's inferior at something."
lotta that going around.

not everything is competition, the things I don't use don't do certain things I want out of the thing, the thing some want out of what I use it doesn't do maybe means <focused to be exactly what it is>, and once the dog of development is wagged by the tail of pandering marketing, shit may get borked.

[jancivil]

One of my favorite musicians, personally, uses Reason, has never been interested to change. It isn't for me, but it's evidently very capable.
the particular advantage I see in it, modular c/v paradigm, is not compelling to my wallet enough. I'm not that kind of synthesizer-centric. Also I hate wires irl, why do I want that mess onscreen. Different strokes...

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

"rather to imply it's inferior at something"

I must say, I consider statements about Reasons' limitations dangerous to people's own credit. If you do not know it in debth, you better not start listing what it cannot do. It may all backfire and reveal your own lack of insight and skills in the modular department. I can make music generators and auto-drummers to my liking with just a few of Reason's many modules, besides from using it as any other DAW. I can use both VSTisand REs, which is a great scope to build up your personal set up. To me, Reason's options are very open ended and actually a little intimidating as such. Limitations are not something that I have noticed in my flow so far.

[jens]

Yes, I have the current version of Studio One an£ an ATOM SQ!

I am referring to the Reason Players, in particular the Drum Sequencer (but there are lots of others). You can just drop this on any Reason or VST drum device, works great with XO drum! Very easy to get some great patterns going then send to track for further editing.

S1 has a pattern editor/step sequencer. Why not just use that?

I was looking for this on my install and then realized that Drum Machine sequencer it's not part of my version of Reason 11. That really sucks. Another plus for S1 for me I don't have to pay extra for something as simple as a freaking pattern sequencer.

S1's step sequencer is really quite basic compared to Reason's Drum Sequencer though...

[jens]

One of my favorite musicians, personally, uses Reason, has never been interested to change. It isn't for me, but it's evidently very capable.
the particular advantage I see in it, modular c/v paradigm, is not compelling to my wallet enough. I'm not that kind of synthesizer-centric. Also I hate wires irl, why do I want that mess onscreen. Different strokes...

I barely ever touch the wires in Reason - I don't even see them very often. And I certainly have very little interest in Reason's CV stuff.

I love Reason for completely different... er... reasons.