Voted!
As far as I counted the synths used, Modul Air was the clear winner this round. Followed by Blooo and Tricent. But respect for those who were choosing Bucket Pops!
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- KVRian
- 628 posts since 5 Mar, 2011 from Austria
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- KVRist
- 88 posts since 16 May, 2021
I have voted!
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- KVRian
- 528 posts since 10 Nov, 2018
Voted.
But will be revisiting all the beautiful entries again to do minor tweaks(if needed). Great stuff folks
But will be revisiting all the beautiful entries again to do minor tweaks(if needed). Great stuff folks
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 12 May, 2019
Voted. Many great tracks, with a lot of creativity and work put into them!
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- KVRist
- 62 posts since 25 Jan, 2018 from Split,Croatia
Voted.
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- KVRian
- 556 posts since 22 Jun, 2019
Voted too.
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Slovakia
Voted.
Even there is no reason for explanation for my reason how I vote I would like to tell it. There were some really nice track with good composition yet I have not put them to my top. Why? I always choose track that have all aspect in balance. Since it is OSC not just composition is important but also sound design and mix.
Even there is no reason for explanation for my reason how I vote I would like to tell it. There were some really nice track with good composition yet I have not put them to my top. Why? I always choose track that have all aspect in balance. Since it is OSC not just composition is important but also sound design and mix.
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 26 Sep, 2020 from Glasgow, Scotland
Voted. Hopefully didn't miss anyone for comments. As always, if the comments ain't helpful just ignore them. I ain't no super genius. But then, none of you are either, that's why we're all here in internet music therapy, right? Nurse! Nurse?
I've always been quite curious about how other people score, so here's my version of it. It's pretty basic. If it wasn't I wouldn't be able to do it.
Everyone gets one point for putting the work in, showing up and putting themselves on the line because I'm kind. Then there's up to one point for composition, up to one point for sound design, and up to one for mixing, because those are the things we're here to do. The last point is for that unquantifiable something extra, usually originality, occasionally insanity, but more often than not just a gut feeling of 'hey, I really liked this track', because I'm nothing if not whimsical.
Sadly that means that it's possible for all y'all to do everything perfectly but still only get a four from me if there's nothing extra there. Even worse, in the past I have awarded that magical extra point for composition, sound design or mixing, and I probably will again in exceptional cases. What's an exceptional case? Can't say, but I knows one when I sees one.
I know, I know, I'm a mean, bad, subjective, internet presence!
I always do a full listen through first, roughly assign everyone's track a score in case I get hit by a meteor the next day, then go through them one by one on Soundcloud and comment and adjust scores as I go. I really try to avoid reading anyone else's comments where I can, for fear I'll be led astray by their honeyed words. I also tend to try to avoid reading comments on my own piece until I'm finished scoring because I'm a precious little snowflake who might mark someone down because they said mean things about my track. (Sadly, this is only mostly a joke.)
I like commenting on people's stuff because I think in words and sometimes things occur to me as I'm writing that I would have missed otherwise. But that doesn't mean everyone should comment. Because, and I know this might shock some of you, people are not all the same.
Too much information? Probably. But I done wrote it now and I'd hate it to go to waste.
Anyway, good luck all. Some excellent work this month, as always.
o
I've always been quite curious about how other people score, so here's my version of it. It's pretty basic. If it wasn't I wouldn't be able to do it.
Everyone gets one point for putting the work in, showing up and putting themselves on the line because I'm kind. Then there's up to one point for composition, up to one point for sound design, and up to one for mixing, because those are the things we're here to do. The last point is for that unquantifiable something extra, usually originality, occasionally insanity, but more often than not just a gut feeling of 'hey, I really liked this track', because I'm nothing if not whimsical.
Sadly that means that it's possible for all y'all to do everything perfectly but still only get a four from me if there's nothing extra there. Even worse, in the past I have awarded that magical extra point for composition, sound design or mixing, and I probably will again in exceptional cases. What's an exceptional case? Can't say, but I knows one when I sees one.
I know, I know, I'm a mean, bad, subjective, internet presence!
I always do a full listen through first, roughly assign everyone's track a score in case I get hit by a meteor the next day, then go through them one by one on Soundcloud and comment and adjust scores as I go. I really try to avoid reading anyone else's comments where I can, for fear I'll be led astray by their honeyed words. I also tend to try to avoid reading comments on my own piece until I'm finished scoring because I'm a precious little snowflake who might mark someone down because they said mean things about my track. (Sadly, this is only mostly a joke.)
I like commenting on people's stuff because I think in words and sometimes things occur to me as I'm writing that I would have missed otherwise. But that doesn't mean everyone should comment. Because, and I know this might shock some of you, people are not all the same.
Too much information? Probably. But I done wrote it now and I'd hate it to go to waste.
Anyway, good luck all. Some excellent work this month, as always.
o
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- DASH Guy
- 8157 posts since 20 Sep, 2001
Thumbs-up for this! <wink>. Thanks. (From another subjective, internet presence!)opdobqo wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:13 pm
I know, I know, I'm a mean, bad, subjective, internet presence!
I always do a full listen through first, roughly assign everyone's track a score in case I get hit by a meteor the next day, then go through them one by one on Soundcloud and comment and adjust scores as I go. I really try to avoid reading anyone else's comments where I can, for fear I'll be led astray by their honeyed words. I also tend to try to avoid reading comments on my own piece until I'm finished scoring because I'm a precious little snowflake who might mark someone down because they said mean things about my track. (Sadly, this is only mostly a joke.)
I like commenting on people's stuff because I think in words and sometimes things occur to me as I'm writing that I would have missed otherwise. But that doesn't mean everyone should comment. Because, and I know this might shock some of you, people are not all the same.
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- KVRAF
- 2396 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
Yup, thanks for this. I use much the same scoring system, and then let the subjective vote help ME decide which tracks I think get that extra nudge up. Music is personal to each and everyone here. So, there must be some subjective (emotional?) input too. Some music moves you, some music moves the speakers!
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- KVRian
- 575 posts since 27 Oct, 2015
For the longest time, I used subjectivity as an excuse to mark down what was objectively the finest tracks - to, you know, take out the competition.
But in the end I decided that I was being unfair, and settled on voting objectively instead.
(I kid!)
But it's an interesting topic. I've been kind of obsessed with it lately - personally I have always thought that it is meaningful to talk about objective measures in music, even in regards to quality, and I've been happy to discover that there is indeed some support for my view in academic circles.
And even though I would naturally never presume to claim that any of the points I award in OSC are actually objective, it will always remain the ultimate goal whenever I listen to and/or evaluate music.
I think it's a healthy way to keep myself on my toes, and always try to consider the knowledge, emotions, references and intentions that lie behind a work - and not get stuck in the rut of what I consider to be my own prejudice, preconceptions and limited scope.
Using subjectivity as a justification for one's reasoning ("I like what I like") can appear to me as something of a brick wall, a device that shuts down communication between the utterer and the rest of the world, and I think the potential rewards for trying to avoid it is worth the effort.
That's not at all to say I turn up my nose at any of you for emphasizing your subjectivity. As long as none of us are omniscient, subjectivity will always be there. This is just a different take that I thought might be interesting to share.
But in the end I decided that I was being unfair, and settled on voting objectively instead.
(I kid!)
But it's an interesting topic. I've been kind of obsessed with it lately - personally I have always thought that it is meaningful to talk about objective measures in music, even in regards to quality, and I've been happy to discover that there is indeed some support for my view in academic circles.
And even though I would naturally never presume to claim that any of the points I award in OSC are actually objective, it will always remain the ultimate goal whenever I listen to and/or evaluate music.
I think it's a healthy way to keep myself on my toes, and always try to consider the knowledge, emotions, references and intentions that lie behind a work - and not get stuck in the rut of what I consider to be my own prejudice, preconceptions and limited scope.
Using subjectivity as a justification for one's reasoning ("I like what I like") can appear to me as something of a brick wall, a device that shuts down communication between the utterer and the rest of the world, and I think the potential rewards for trying to avoid it is worth the effort.
That's not at all to say I turn up my nose at any of you for emphasizing your subjectivity. As long as none of us are omniscient, subjectivity will always be there. This is just a different take that I thought might be interesting to share.
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- KVRist
- 186 posts since 28 Dec, 2012
Voted - and since it's in vogue to discuss voting methodology, I'll say that the main twist I'd add to the usual categories people discuss (composition, sound design, mixing) is it's important to consider their interactions as well. Something can have simple sound design or mixing, but if it serves and fits the composition then in my book at least that's fine.
At the end of the day, we're making music. Certainly production is a necessary condition for quality, but it's not a sufficient one (i.e. something can be "well-produced" but still lack musical value), and what "good production" is depends on what is being produced. Being overly focused on the sound design of a kick drum doesn't make sense for a track where the percussion just isn't as important musically - the genre impacts the sound design, and I think the way subjectivity most frequently strikes is genre preference.
But, I'll freely admit some bias here, in that I focus on genres less typical to this community and also prefer spending more time thinking about music theory than the finer details of audio engineering. I respect both, but if I were actually a rock star or something I'd definitely hire somebody to do the latter
It's still a blast to participate in this competition regardless, and I never concern myself too much about the ranking but just the fact that we're all making something pretty cool together.
At the end of the day, we're making music. Certainly production is a necessary condition for quality, but it's not a sufficient one (i.e. something can be "well-produced" but still lack musical value), and what "good production" is depends on what is being produced. Being overly focused on the sound design of a kick drum doesn't make sense for a track where the percussion just isn't as important musically - the genre impacts the sound design, and I think the way subjectivity most frequently strikes is genre preference.
But, I'll freely admit some bias here, in that I focus on genres less typical to this community and also prefer spending more time thinking about music theory than the finer details of audio engineering. I respect both, but if I were actually a rock star or something I'd definitely hire somebody to do the latter
It's still a blast to participate in this competition regardless, and I never concern myself too much about the ranking but just the fact that we're all making something pretty cool together.
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- KVRian
- 648 posts since 20 Jan, 2013
I'm a sucker for this topic. Some interesting points so far from you wise folk.
For me, in voting, I do allow a degree of how much I like or love the music to influence my vote, but only about 1 point, and only ever upwards. So plenty of times I give a 5 to tracks that have great production, composition, sounds etc, even though I might not ever really want to listen to it again. And sometimes, if a track is rather lacking in one or more of those areas, but I really enjoy it or connect to it, I will bump up the score anyway to reflect how much I appreciate it - as art and communication.
I find the idea of voting based just on what I like really not what I think this is about. I admit to have being mildly irritated with people seeming to vote this way in the past sometimes (both on my own behalf and on behalf of others' tracks). I like to at least attempt some 'objective' assessment of production quatlity, sound quality, composition quality in the context of the genre as the main basis for my vote, and then tweak it according to my inevitably subjective sense of artistic quality, enjoyment, connection.
But the rules are vote however you please - and I think that is very cool also
Anyway, haven't had time to really listen yet this month. Not voted yet. Couldn't resist the good old voting criteria discussion
And while I'm here, thanks to everyone who has given me comments on my track, it's really helpful and such a great part of being here. You rock.
For me, in voting, I do allow a degree of how much I like or love the music to influence my vote, but only about 1 point, and only ever upwards. So plenty of times I give a 5 to tracks that have great production, composition, sounds etc, even though I might not ever really want to listen to it again. And sometimes, if a track is rather lacking in one or more of those areas, but I really enjoy it or connect to it, I will bump up the score anyway to reflect how much I appreciate it - as art and communication.
I find the idea of voting based just on what I like really not what I think this is about. I admit to have being mildly irritated with people seeming to vote this way in the past sometimes (both on my own behalf and on behalf of others' tracks). I like to at least attempt some 'objective' assessment of production quatlity, sound quality, composition quality in the context of the genre as the main basis for my vote, and then tweak it according to my inevitably subjective sense of artistic quality, enjoyment, connection.
But the rules are vote however you please - and I think that is very cool also
Anyway, haven't had time to really listen yet this month. Not voted yet. Couldn't resist the good old voting criteria discussion
And while I'm here, thanks to everyone who has given me comments on my track, it's really helpful and such a great part of being here. You rock.-
- KVRist
- 39 posts since 26 Sep, 2020 from Glasgow, Scotland
Tee hee, I started a small avalanche. I'm not going to debate it all here - Kuma 508 is eating what little free time I have, but I will say this.
I'm here for the music and the camaraderie. I'm here for the people I see improving their work month on month. I'm here for those tracks that surprise me, that make me happy, that move me. I'm here to get better at this. Pretty sure that's true for all of us. It's also cool to get little glimpses into how everyone thinks about this process. Thank you all for that.
I'm quite happy knowing that a bunch of people listened to something I made and graded it the same way they grade every other track. Doesn't matter how y'all do that, just matters that you do it. And more than anything else it matters that you're not me, that you've brought a different collection of knowledge and experience to the table and I get to (virtually) eat parts of your brain-power and gain your special secret knowings.
Difference is good.
o
I'm here for the music and the camaraderie. I'm here for the people I see improving their work month on month. I'm here for those tracks that surprise me, that make me happy, that move me. I'm here to get better at this. Pretty sure that's true for all of us. It's also cool to get little glimpses into how everyone thinks about this process. Thank you all for that.
I'm quite happy knowing that a bunch of people listened to something I made and graded it the same way they grade every other track. Doesn't matter how y'all do that, just matters that you do it. And more than anything else it matters that you're not me, that you've brought a different collection of knowledge and experience to the table and I get to (virtually) eat parts of your brain-power and gain your special secret knowings.
Difference is good.
o