Available now: Tone2 Nemesis 2.4
- KVRian
- 806 posts since 7 Aug, 2015 from H2O
Any suggestions for modulating the "NEO FM" dial? I just don't feel like there's enough creativity in the lfo's and envelopes. With Bazille, you've got the lag generators to take pops out of using the sequencer/ramps/mapping generators, but with Nemesis, using the arp/steplfo to modulate is too noisy with pops, which doesn't leave many options.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1748 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
In nearly all Tone2 synths you can smooth any matrix source.
In Matrix Slot 1:
- Select Arp StepLfo+ as source
- Select X:=value as target
- Set Matrix Send to +100
In Matrix Slot 2:
- Select Filter(X) as source
- Select FM1 (or any target you wish) as target
- Set Matrix Send to +33 (this one controls the smoothing speed)
In Matrix Slot 1:
- Select Arp StepLfo+ as source
- Select X:=value as target
- Set Matrix Send to +100
In Matrix Slot 2:
- Select Filter(X) as source
- Select FM1 (or any target you wish) as target
- Set Matrix Send to +33 (this one controls the smoothing speed)
- KVRAF
- 10361 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
... which is another great example of why you can very quickly run out of matrix slots in ALL of the Tone 2 synthesizers (and why I keep complaining that I want more!!).
A simple smoothing operation (that is usually built-in on other synths) takes up a whole extra slot. Now imagine adding a few midi controller things and multiple velocity routings that you want to manipulate. It is _very_ easy to run out of slots.
So yeah, my wish that I've been saying year after year:
Please please PLEASE add more matrix slots! (especially Electra and Gladiator!)
A simple smoothing operation (that is usually built-in on other synths) takes up a whole extra slot. Now imagine adding a few midi controller things and multiple velocity routings that you want to manipulate. It is _very_ easy to run out of slots.
So yeah, my wish that I've been saying year after year:
Please please PLEASE add more matrix slots! (especially Electra and Gladiator!)
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
- KVRian
- 806 posts since 7 Aug, 2015 from H2O
Oh, okay! This is wonderful to learn. Followed your directions and it works wonderfully.Markus Krause wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:56 am In nearly all Tone2 synths you can smooth any matrix source.
In Matrix Slot 1:
- Select Arp StepLfo+ as source
- Select X:=value as target
- Set Matrix Send to +100
In Matrix Slot 2:
- Select Filter(X) as source
- Select FM1 (or any target you wish) as target
- Set Matrix Send to +33 (this one controls the smoothing speed)
I did not know this, but it sure is going to open up a lot of doors for me. So thrilled to get educated on this tip.
- KVRist
- 180 posts since 13 Jan, 2015 from SLC, UT
My only request for this synth is to move the patch randomization feature out of the file drop down menu. It gets frustrating having to open the menu every time to click to randomize the patch. If you could click it semi quickly it'd be a lot faster to use.
- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
How would anyone know though that this was meant to do smoothing without this tip? Would be easier with a dedicated function.Bodhisan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:19 amOh, okay! This is wonderful to learn. Followed your directions and it works wonderfully.Markus Krause wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:56 am In nearly all Tone2 synths you can smooth any matrix source.
In Matrix Slot 1:
- Select Arp StepLfo+ as source
- Select X:=value as target
- Set Matrix Send to +100
In Matrix Slot 2:
- Select Filter(X) as source
- Select FM1 (or any target you wish) as target
- Set Matrix Send to +33 (this one controls the smoothing speed)
I did not know this, but it sure is going to open up a lot of doors for me. So thrilled to get educated on this tip.
- KVRian
- 806 posts since 7 Aug, 2015 from H2O
That makes me feel a lot less clueless coming from a veteran programmer. Now that I’ve played around with this, using the arp as a modulator, especially at cutting the rate down and adjusting the Xfilter speed, it’s actually pretty cool, and you can achieve more of the MSEG-type modulations. I used this technique with Rayblaster - which has a few more interesting targets, and it’s made these two synths a lot more fun and challenging (I’m a good way) to program.aMUSEd wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:18 pmHow would anyone know though that this was meant to do smoothing without this tip? Would be easier with a dedicated function.Bodhisan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:19 amOh, okay! This is wonderful to learn. Followed your directions and it works wonderfully.Markus Krause wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:56 am In nearly all Tone2 synths you can smooth any matrix source.
In Matrix Slot 1:
- Select Arp StepLfo+ as source
- Select X:=value as target
- Set Matrix Send to +100
In Matrix Slot 2:
- Select Filter(X) as source
- Select FM1 (or any target you wish) as target
- Set Matrix Send to +33 (this one controls the smoothing speed)
I did not know this, but it sure is going to open up a lot of doors for me. So thrilled to get educated on this tip.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1748 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
We invite you to join our demotrack-competition for Nemesis. You can win a Tone2 Complete Bundle ($999) and many other exciting prizes.
https://www.tone2.com/competition.html
https://www.tone2.com/competition.html
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
demo use, got it thanks
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1748 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
Yes.
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 24 Sep, 2016
can we use the demo version to enter the contest?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1748 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
yes
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- KVRAF
- 2079 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future
when there will be an Icarus competition,would participate passionately in such :)Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 1576 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
This one there seems to be a longer time period, nice. Would have entered the Saurus one but there wasn't much time. Is there that problem the other one had where you can't save patches with the demo? Cause that makes this contest pointless for non owners. Maybe that's the point though...
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- KVRian
- 526 posts since 14 Sep, 2016
I'm also having problems using the demo to make an entry. Presets aren't saved so every time you load the project in your DAW you have to set up the presets again and there's often no output from the synth. So realistically you need to buy Nemesis to make an entry. It's on my "to buy" list but I hadn't planned to just yet.