KVR Audio

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:11 pm

I've done my "first pass" now, and will leave it a couple of days. I'll go back and then move down my list and add comments and modify any placings I think should change from the first pass. Partly because I got it wrong the first time, and partly when something starts to stand out with more critical listening. + a small amount of subjectivity of course

Good luck all, and simply keep making music each month if you can, despite the foibles of the chosen synths.

dB

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:19 pm

schiing wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:20 pm Using subjectivity as a justification for one's reasoning ("I like what I like") can appear to me as something of a brick wall, a device that shuts down communication between the utterer and the rest of the world, and I think the potential rewards for trying to avoid it is worth the effort.

While I agree with what you wrote, the point here is the context where subjectivity strikes.
There are been OSC months (for me) when either I'd vote by preference or give 5 to anyone, or 1 to anyone. The brick wall could also be a set of reference values that should not be references if we want to keep music creation free from restricting rules.

zarf · Post by **zarf** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:46 pm

opdobqo wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:09 pm Difference is good.

A bizzarely radical statement these days. I will say no more

schiing · Post by **schiing** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:53 pm

liqih wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:19 pm The brick wall could also be a set of reference values that should not be references if we want to keep music creation free from restricting rules.

Yeah, I agree in the sense that the brick wall could come down to academic blindsight or deep specialization as much as wilful ignorance or general incompetence.

I'm not necessarily opposed to (restricting) rules in music, though - at least as in, "we need to know what the rules are before we break them".

I think there are enough commonalities in music throughout the ages / cultures of mankind that we can define a set of, if not universal, then certainly dominant features that provides a useful framework as (jeez...) rules! If we are indeed restricted by them, I think it's good to know, for example, why we challenge them and why they are there in the first place.

But hey, for all I know we might agree about all of that - I'm no fan of rules for the sake of rules. I don't mean to be a pedant or anything, I'm just fascinated by the nuances in the discussion of music!

schiing · Post by **schiing** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:54 pm

zarf wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:46 pm
opdobqo wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:09 pm Difference is good.
A bizzarely radical statement these days. I will say no more

A good philosophy!

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:19 pm

schiing wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:53 pm
liqih wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:19 pm The brick wall could also be a set of reference values that should not be references if we want to keep music creation free from restricting rules.
Yeah, I agree in the sense that the brick wall could come down to academic blindsight or deep specialization as much as wilful ignorance or general incompetence.

I'm not necessarily opposed to (restricting) rules in music, though - at least as in, "we need to know what the rules are before we break them".

I think there are enough commonalities in music throughout the ages / cultures of mankind that we can define a set of, if not universal, then certainly dominant features that provides a useful framework as (jeez...) rules! If we are indeed restricted by them, I think it's good to know, for example, why we challenge them and why they are there in the first place.

But hey, for all I know we might agree about all of that - I'm no fan of rules for the sake of rules. I don't mean to be a pedant or anything, I'm just fascinated by the nuances in the discussion of music!

I agree that musical "rules" should be knows. I distinguish between what I call physiological rules, cultural rules, and trendy rules. Hence relative to human subjects, societies and spans of time.
Oops... I going a little too far off maybe, LOL.

schiing · Post by **schiing** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:53 pm

liqih wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:19 pm Oops... I going a little too far off maybe, LOL.

No no, go on. At this stage of the competition, I'd say anything to do with music is fair game, a tasty digestif after the main course - dare to disagree!

schiing · Post by **schiing** » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:36 am

Voted!

fese · Post by **fese** » Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:34 pm

and voted

ELEX · Post by **ELEX** » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:47 pm

voted

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:19 pm

.... and Dr Bob has voted, but may still revise his list!!!!!

dB

kylebenjamin · Post by **kylebenjamin** » Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:13 pm

Voted.

1980-F · Post by **1980-F** » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:41 pm

Voted. (but maybe there will be some final adjustments...)

] Peter:H [ · Post by **] Peter:H [** » Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:33 am

Voted. Phew, quite a number of tracks from quite a number of Fullbucket fans!

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:21 pm

@PeterH, also nice to see the more esoteric synths in there too

Many old favourites too. Judging sound design is difficult because each synth offers its own unique way of sculpting sounds. For we seasoned OSC-ers, we have tried many of them, so know the strengths and weaknesses of them, but to relative newcomers, that is an "issue". Lots of room for judging the awesomeness of each and every track ...

Once again, hats off and bow to the awesome Full Bucket for his synths.

dB

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