[video] Get the right usb3 pcie card for speed
- KVRian
- 1314 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada
There's not many good cards out there. Even if they were expensive, they use too little bandwidth and their connectivity lacks (still uploading, bedtime).
In this tut; I show you how to shop for the real deal and what to look for so that your keyboard, or microphone array, or live synth, or even mixing sequencer can hook up to your computer at a significant enough speed in a reliable way.
This is a long video, but I show you what to look for, what gets better results and what terms to utilize. I even show a few possible workarounds that could potentially get your more speed than anything else.
Here's some good products to consider:
https://www.amazon.com/BEYIMEI-PCI-Expr ... B087WNWD4M
And these if for type a would require an adapter, fast though.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-PCI ... B087G7T234
https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Internal-E ... B08D38C521
It'd be nice to be able to find the same calibre for a 19pin connection for the tower's front. Not very convenient. But there are deals to be had.
In this tut; I show you how to shop for the real deal and what to look for so that your keyboard, or microphone array, or live synth, or even mixing sequencer can hook up to your computer at a significant enough speed in a reliable way.
This is a long video, but I show you what to look for, what gets better results and what terms to utilize. I even show a few possible workarounds that could potentially get your more speed than anything else.
Here's some good products to consider:
https://www.amazon.com/BEYIMEI-PCI-Expr ... B087WNWD4M
And these if for type a would require an adapter, fast though.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-PCI ... B087G7T234
https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Internal-E ... B08D38C521
It'd be nice to be able to find the same calibre for a 19pin connection for the tower's front. Not very convenient. But there are deals to be had.
I don't make audio products anymore. I sell furniture & smart products.
- KVRian
- 1189 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
Good points, but for multi ports as long not using all the connections at the same
time, the speed should be ok.
Some cards with more ports have dual controllers and the old Sonnet Allegro Pro
had 4 chips, one for each port and the Fresco Logic FL1100 chip is/was one of the best.
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/legac ... 3pcie.html
A very important point is compatibility, as you can see here RME has the *best* USB
implementation by far, but they are very picky about the USB port/chipset/driver.
I do not know how the situation is today, but some time ago basically only the cards
with Fresco Logic FL1100 or NEC/Renesas µPD720202/uPD720201 chips
were 100% good, one example at
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph ... 32#p153132
But looks like the newer ASMedia chips ASM3242 in the cards you recommended
now works well too.
time, the speed should be ok.
Some cards with more ports have dual controllers and the old Sonnet Allegro Pro
had 4 chips, one for each port and the Fresco Logic FL1100 chip is/was one of the best.
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/legac ... 3pcie.html
A very important point is compatibility, as you can see here RME has the *best* USB
implementation by far, but they are very picky about the USB port/chipset/driver.
I do not know how the situation is today, but some time ago basically only the cards
with Fresco Logic FL1100 or NEC/Renesas µPD720202/uPD720201 chips
were 100% good, one example at
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph ... 32#p153132
But looks like the newer ASMedia chips ASM3242 in the cards you recommended
now works well too.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1314 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada
Well, My favorite is a pcie 2.0 card made by silverstone. I omitted that result however because it is version 2. But then, still good for a pcie 2.0 connection, like on My newer used mobo.
But yes, the point I was making is for them to be used all at the same time. I'd meant for a live performance, rather than mere utility - something important.
But yes, the point I was making is for them to be used all at the same time. I'd meant for a live performance, rather than mere utility - something important.
I don't make audio products anymore. I sell furniture & smart products.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1314 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada
This another nice unit for those looking:
https://www.amazon.com/2-Port-PCIe-Card ... 08VNSK8HW/
It uses a newer as3412 that sometimes has a heatsink.
https://www.amazon.com/2-Port-PCIe-Card ... 08VNSK8HW/
It uses a newer as3412 that sometimes has a heatsink.
I don't make audio products anymore. I sell furniture & smart products.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1314 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada
Here's some interesting facts about PCIE cards that are designed for PCIE version 3.0. They seem to be bottle necked with the amount of connectivity and bandwidth that they can provide.
So, in PCIE 2.0 you might be utilizing all 4 PCIE lanes for two connections, wherein by using PCIE 3.0; you can only utilize 2 lanes, making buying an x4 card a useless endeavour.
What does this mean? It means that though an ASMedia Chipset might be faster than a VIA chipset, you'll be hardpressed to find anything newer than the 3141 model in circulation, and being used commonly amidst products sold on Amazon.
Here's the product I just purchased on Amazon.ca:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01AY7U8NC/r
And here's the converter I needed to make the rear connection compatible with a 19 pin cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07YTWBDGR/
Here's some Banter about the ASMedia Chipset and shortcomings that it has:
https://www.personal-view.com/talks/dis ... ecifically
And here's the official information from the startech.com website that lists off the technology and chipsets used on the card.
https://www.startech.com/en-ca/cards-ad ... exusb311ei
So, you should do the homework to ensure that the chipset which you paid good money for is actually designed for PCIE version 3.0.
So, in PCIE 2.0 you might be utilizing all 4 PCIE lanes for two connections, wherein by using PCIE 3.0; you can only utilize 2 lanes, making buying an x4 card a useless endeavour.
What does this mean? It means that though an ASMedia Chipset might be faster than a VIA chipset, you'll be hardpressed to find anything newer than the 3141 model in circulation, and being used commonly amidst products sold on Amazon.
Here's the product I just purchased on Amazon.ca:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01AY7U8NC/r
And here's the converter I needed to make the rear connection compatible with a 19 pin cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07YTWBDGR/
Here's some Banter about the ASMedia Chipset and shortcomings that it has:
https://www.personal-view.com/talks/dis ... ecifically
And here's the official information from the startech.com website that lists off the technology and chipsets used on the card.
https://www.startech.com/en-ca/cards-ad ... exusb311ei
So, you should do the homework to ensure that the chipset which you paid good money for is actually designed for PCIE version 3.0.
I don't make audio products anymore. I sell furniture & smart products.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1314 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada
Here's a pcie 3.0 model on aliexpress. It supplies only two usb3.1 ports and that kind of bandwidth is impressive, especially being that it relies on the nimble asm3142. Too bad not pcie 4.0 however.
Nice that it uses the more recent sata power connection rather than the aging molex. Hard to cater to, with the newer modular psu's. Just as hard to get matching molex splitters furthermore. I recommend https://moddiy.com for that sort of thing. I was even able to find asus sata3 cables which is cool.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32952950835.html
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Nice that it uses the more recent sata power connection rather than the aging molex. Hard to cater to, with the newer modular psu's. Just as hard to get matching molex splitters furthermore. I recommend https://moddiy.com for that sort of thing. I was even able to find asus sata3 cables which is cool.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32952950835.html
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