KVR Audio

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:04 pm

pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:50 pmI just sent a feature suggestion to Bitwig saying I would like the increments bigger. 1 = 3 was my suggestion. Have you tried it yet?

Yes, the increments are fine for me and 3 would definitely be way too big - if you need a track blown up to (almost) full screen the double-tapping Z (Ableton style) should be the way to go. I wish it also went up to disabling "Enable Large Track Height" when reducing the lowest height further and enabled "Enable Large Track Height" whn it's in that mode and one's trying to increase height. That would feel very natural, to me at least. Now it requires 2 separate shortcuts.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:50 pm

antic604 wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:04 pm
pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:50 pmI just sent a feature suggestion to Bitwig saying I would like the increments bigger. 1 = 3 was my suggestion. Have you tried it yet?
Yes, the increments are fine for me and 3 would definitely be way too big - if you need a track blown up to (almost) full screen the double-tapping Z (Ableton style) should be the way to go.

I wonder if it is different for different platforms or screens?

On my MBP, if I want to go from default to where it shows the stereo waveforms, I have to hit the command 3 times. (thus my 3 to 1 ratio)

Out of curiosity since you mentioned it, I wondered how many it would be to reach full track height... 29 repeats of the key command

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:15 pm

pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:50 pmOut of curiosity since you mentioned it, I wondered how many it would be to reach full track height... 29 repeats of the key command

19 with the device panel showing up. But you can hold the shotcut, so no need to tap it x times.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:21 pm

antic604 wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:15 pm
pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:50 pmOut of curiosity since you mentioned it, I wondered how many it would be to reach full track height... 29 repeats of the key command
19 with the device panel showing up. But you can hold the shotcut, so no need to tap it x times.

27 for me with the device panel showing...

Ahhh, holding the key command. That is better... thanks!

WasteLand · Post by **WasteLand** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:25 pm

are the beta's still very beta, or is the release imminent. from beta 2 to 4 in ten days..

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:29 pm

WasteLand wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:25 pm are the beta's still very beta, or is the release imminent. from beta 2 to 4 in ten days..

Still very beta, lots of bugs.

PieBerger · Post by **PieBerger** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:59 pm

pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:33 pm
PieBerger wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:04 pm Changes in Bitwig Studio 4.0, Beta 4 [released 11 June 2021]
New Features

Added track lane height zoom functions (assignable via Dashboard > Settings > Shortcuts)

Have you tried it? It is only a key command to incrementally make all track heights bigger and another for smaller. The increments are small, so it takes multiple repeats and it does not include a vertical zoom to fit or by selection.

Not enough for I think

Definitely sprung out the party hat prematurely

I'm grateful for something at least, but I would prefer a means to expand/contract the highlighted only or at least have the currently selected track remain central/in focus while adjusting. It's kind of confusing and slightly tedious to make global adjustments and then have to re-centre the track/clip every time.

Qqq_7 · Post by **Qqq_7** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:25 pm

Man, I really want to get into Bitwig. I think the release of Bitwig 4 here might finally push me to make the plunge.

I really want to play around with the cross-DAW project loading, see how convenient/inconvenient it is jumping between FL/Ableton and Bitwig.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:57 pm

Qqq_7 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:25 pmMan, I really want to get into Bitwig. I think the release of Bitwig 4 here might finally push me to make the plunge.

And it's on sale right now (don't mind the v3 on the box):
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/da ... g-studio-3

PieBerger · Post by **PieBerger** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:19 am

Qqq_7 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:25 pm I really want to play around with the cross-DAW project loading, see how convenient/inconvenient it is jumping between FL/Ableton and Bitwig.

Unfortunately, it's not much use, if like me you use racks for everything; all of my synths and plugins are racked and macro'd up for easy hands on control with my Push 2 and for quite understandable technical reasons, Bitwig can't bring these over from ALS files during conversion. YMMV.

Rivanni · Post by **Rivanni** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:33 am

antic604 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:57 pm
Qqq_7 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:25 pmMan, I really want to get into Bitwig. I think the release of Bitwig 4 here might finally push me to make the plunge.
And it's on sale right now (don't mind the v3 on the box):
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/da ... g-studio-3

Upgrade plan just $ 116 (€ 96) with automatically applied coupon code JUNE2021

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:34 am

PieBerger wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:19 am
Qqq_7 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:25 pm I really want to play around with the cross-DAW project loading, see how convenient/inconvenient it is jumping between FL/Ableton and Bitwig.
Unfortunately, it's not much use, if like me you use racks for everything; all of my synths and plugins are racked and macro'd up for easy hands on control with my Push 2 and for quite understandable technical reasons, Bitwig can't bring these over from ALS files during conversion. YMMV.

I wouldn't be surprised if when it's a simple VST (or native Live synth) with pre-mapped macros they'll eventually handle it via Macro modulators and Remote pages.

Still, obviously I would't get Bitwig under the assumption that it will load Live projects. It's a bonus feature.

PieBerger · Post by **PieBerger** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:53 am

antic604 wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:34 am
PieBerger wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:19 am
Qqq_7 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:25 pm I really want to play around with the cross-DAW project loading, see how convenient/inconvenient it is jumping between FL/Ableton and Bitwig.
Unfortunately, it's not much use, if like me you use racks for everything; all of my synths and plugins are racked and macro'd up for easy hands on control with my Push 2 and for quite understandable technical reasons, Bitwig can't bring these over from ALS files during conversion. YMMV.
I wouldn't be surprised if when it's a simple VST (or native Live synth) with pre-mapped macros they'll eventually handle it via Macro modulators and Remote pages.

Still, obviously I would't get Bitwig under the assumption that it will load Live projects. It's a bonus feature.

I don't think it's entirely out of the question, just a lot more development work, especially considering how deep you can go with rack nesting.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:04 am

Live is far more prolific than Bitwig and if collaboration (with Live projects) is your thing, you may be better of owning Live as well...I cant personally see any reason why I would want to work on a Live project in Bitwig (if I owned Live) and I cant really see how it would help people move old projects across if they wanted to swap completely, but it does let you access the hardware stuff that is using Live Project Files...Bitwig is tapping in to Live's existing ecosystem.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:08 am

SLiC wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:04 amI cant personally see any reason why I would want to work on a Live project in Bitwig (if I owned Live)

Not to mention you can't load Bitwig's projects in Live and I doubt Ableton will be rushing to join Claes' universal DAW file format initiative: https://github.com/bitwig/dawproject

Bitwig Studio 4 announced (+beta available)!