NI go VST 3

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KVRAF
9833 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:24 am

it ain't fixed either...

KVRAF
9239 posts since 12 May, 2008

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:26 am

Yeah I've had Prism showing up every time as needing an update. And when it updates, it is still there next time...

Too bad no GR 6 in the fx updates...
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KVRAF
22771 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from not here

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:49 am

chk071 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:50 am
Note that you will only get updates if you have one of the plugins which went VST3 now installed, of course. :)
would tend to be true
two things here which aren't plugins but Kontakt libraries have an update, that aren't installed (irrelevant but it didn't call those updates before).
Here I updated Transient Master and Driver. Those I can generally imagine sticking in Cubase, not that I have or anything.
VSL is going to feel a little more pressure on VE Pro hosting VST3 from this I bet.

So, who is using Reaktor under Big Sur/slightly off topic
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KVRist
163 posts since 8 Dec, 2014

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:55 am

You guys think they make the UIs scalable? Is that even possible? I'm still on the fence on going for Komplete because I probably will rarely use all that non scalabe stuff.

KVRAF
2004 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:12 am

i have komplete 11 ultimate + komplete 13, by the way.

and maschine. it sees the vst3 version of them, if you load the vst3, i can't check if it really loads it, but it seems likely...

so this is the first step to full vst3.. me thinks.. in NI pace. which i don't mind..

but it would be nice, if with next update Maschine also can load vst3 plugins. and have some PDC ánd aftertouch + poly aftertouch. but Maschine works ok for me...
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KVRAF
3916 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am

Yesterday, I saw only Transient Master FX was in the "Available updates" tab and I thought OK, let me ignore this for now. Today, saw this topic, opened Native Access and there are 15 plugins now!

I haven't updated yet, but I think the GUIs are still non-resizable (except Crush Pack and Mod Pack, which are not in this list), right? Perhaps in the next update? I hope so.

KVRAF
29243 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am

gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:55 am
You guys think they make the UIs scalable?
Their newer plugins have various UI sizes.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRist
163 posts since 8 Dec, 2014

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:48 am

chk071 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am
gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:55 am
You guys think they make the UIs scalable?
Their newer plugins have various UI sizes.
Yeah I know, I'm just trying to not buy stuff I wont use right now, so Komplete is like a double edged sword. It's ofc still the best value proposition but I mean, the highest value is the VST you use :hihi:.

KVRAF
2004 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:55 am

LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am
Yesterday, I saw only Transient Master FX was in the "Available updates" tab and I thought OK, let me ignore this for now. Today, saw this topic, opened Native Access and there are 15 plugins now!

I haven't updated yet, but I think the GUIs are still non-resizable (except Crush Pack and Mod Pack, which are not in this list), right? Perhaps in the next update? I hope so.
then it goes in batches, i saw 14 updates. or we have a different set of plugins... from NI... but me thinks i have all instruments/FX. i can be wrong...
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KVRAF
3916 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:07 am

WasteLand wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:55 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am
Yesterday, I saw only Transient Master FX was in the "Available updates" tab and I thought OK, let me ignore this for now. Today, saw this topic, opened Native Access and there are 15 plugins now!

I haven't updated yet, but I think the GUIs are still non-resizable (except Crush Pack and Mod Pack, which are not in this list), right? Perhaps in the next update? I hope so.
then it goes in batches, i saw 14 updates. or we have a different set of plugins... from NI... but me thinks i have all instruments/FX. i can be wrong...
I have Komplete 13 Ultimate Collector's Edition. I think it is all (or most) FX plugins for now. If there's anything pending, it will probably come in the next batch as you said.

KVRAF
2004 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:16 am

LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:07 am
WasteLand wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:55 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am
Yesterday, I saw only Transient Master FX was in the "Available updates" tab and I thought OK, let me ignore this for now. Today, saw this topic, opened Native Access and there are 15 plugins now!

I haven't updated yet, but I think the GUIs are still non-resizable (except Crush Pack and Mod Pack, which are not in this list), right? Perhaps in the next update? I hope so.
then it goes in batches, i saw 14 updates. or we have a different set of plugins... from NI... but me thinks i have all instruments/FX. i can be wrong...
I have Komplete 13 Ultimate Collector's Edition. I think it is all (or most) FX plugins for now. If there's anything pending, it will probably come in the next batch as you said.
ok, i saw that i didn't had supercharger installed (GT i have) so..
but me thinks all others will also come.
thnx! (as mentioned i have komplete 11 ultimate + komplete 13. which for me is great. i have also a komplete 10, so i can update how i want... and for a good price... sometimes they dump them... here on KVR)
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KVRian
569 posts since 20 Nov, 2000 from Valencia, Spain

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:26 am

For those of you having problems with the updates, take a look at this tool:

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... s-Windows-

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KVRAF
3916 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:33 am

WasteLand wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:16 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:07 am
WasteLand wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:55 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am
Yesterday, I saw only Transient Master FX was in the "Available updates" tab and I thought OK, let me ignore this for now. Today, saw this topic, opened Native Access and there are 15 plugins now!

I haven't updated yet, but I think the GUIs are still non-resizable (except Crush Pack and Mod Pack, which are not in this list), right? Perhaps in the next update? I hope so.
then it goes in batches, i saw 14 updates. or we have a different set of plugins... from NI... but me thinks i have all instruments/FX. i can be wrong...
I have Komplete 13 Ultimate Collector's Edition. I think it is all (or most) FX plugins for now. If there's anything pending, it will probably come in the next batch as you said.
ok, i saw that i didn't had supercharger installed (GT i have) so..
but me thinks all others will also come.
thnx! (as mentioned i have komplete 11 ultimate + komplete 13. which for me is great. i have also a komplete 10, so i can update how i want... and for a good price... sometimes they dump them... here on KVR)
Yes, think they have just started, so more will be coming... hopefully instruments too (Super 8 is currently the only one available as VST3). The most important thing for me from NI point of view is resizable GUI for ALL plugins that don't have it yet, and to bring more instruments out of Reaktor if possible. :)

Agree. It's best to have one Standard and one Ultimate version in general, so that you can update/upgrade as required. Offers great flexibility. :tu: Mine is based on Komplete 8 and Komplete 8 Ultimate.

KVRAF
2004 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am

LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:33 am
Yes, think they have just started, so more will be coming... hopefully instruments too (Super 8 is currently the only one available as VST3). The most important thing for me from NI point of view is resizable GUI for ALL plugins that don't have it yet, and to bring more instruments out of Reaktor if possible. :)

Agree. It's best to have one Standard and one Ultimate version in general, so that you can update/upgrade as required. Offers great flexibility. :tu: Mine is based on Komplete 8 and Komplete 8 Ultimate.
flexibility, and offers great value for price.

resizable GUI would be nice, but strangely i am so used to them... only kontakt is really too small for me... for a sampler you need a lot of rooooom...

but indeed resizable GUI's, it is time. i also was used to the tiny GUI's of Softube, they aren't fuzzy anymore, even the FET compressor (strangely a lot of compressors are built by softube for NI, even the RC24/48, which by the way i really really like, but me thinks i am almost the only one...), it is nice to have a bigger GUI.

but Softube has one framework for all. NI doesn't i believe, or i can be wrong (or some overlap, but also.. o well). perhaps they are consolidating that... one framework means, GUI resizing for one is for all..

i never noticed it before, a function, i must set that function off again, but i saw that NI products are the most popular via KVR, on; owning? don't know anymore.

but i believe NI komplete, or NI instruments, you can find in most ITB/hybrid studio's. not strange. besides the GUI, and complaining, it are still great instruments ánd FX plugins, they sound great.

and even Maschine i like, with all it's shortcomings, i just work another way in it, and it works, sometimes limitations can give you something. but indeed, if you also have 'stuff', without limitations, which means, a lot of stuff....
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KVRAF
34015 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:02 pm

Not updating until at least VST4
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