Best vst for fat bass

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BONES wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:44 am
PieBerger wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:04 amI use Saturn 2 on every (psytrance) bass that I make and Black Box and or VSM also get plenty of use too and they have plenty of bottom end or rather my basses have an appropriate amount of low end, without any EQ post processing.
We're not talking about "appropriate" though, are we? We're talking about FAT bass. Did you really pay $154 for a distortion? I've probably got more than 20 different distortion plugins and I'd be surprised if they cost me that much, all up.
One of the few decent VST distortions I came along is NI Dirt. It didn't cost that much though, it's only 69 € for the Crush Pack. What I'm trying to say: There are really few software distortions out there which do a great job. IMO, alongside analog filter modelling, it seems like distortion/saturation is very hard to get right in the digital domain.

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There are plenty of good ones, sometimes fully digital things like wavefolders, that can do great work. It is very hard, though, to match the sound of a good hardware tube distortion but that's neither here nor there in the greater scheme of things. It's much better to forge your own path. My biggest problem/issue is that my two favourite distortions are both native Orion effects. Finding replacements has been a real challenge but I can usually find something that will work well enough for any given situation. I used to also like the way you could overdrive certain modules in SynthEdit to get a nice, saturated sound. It's something in SE that I don't think a lot of people knew about.
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Drive and saturation on bass isn't bad idea at all,but my concept of fat bass,aside from common usage of the term,is to have nice mellow low end,not crazy distorted thing.
If somebody start topic 'Craziest bass' possible i would recomend Regressif and SUBVERT as fx.
In fact any kind of distortion could be applied on any track if the goal is to add more noise,but for fatness doesn't seems very useful to me,personal opinion.
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Below 200 Hz, the difference between basses diminishes--still some room for a bit a variety. Are people defining fat bass by what goes on above 200 Hz?
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My definition of fat bass is 20-200 hz range on focus.
200-300 hz is usually focus of snare,claps,percusive elements so on.
The bass could benefit with everything in 400 - 4000 hz range but it's harmonics not the basic freqs.
As guitar player all the time i struggle to place right and differentiate acoustic drums from guitar and bass.
If play power chords on the guitar, basic tone is 40-100 hz ,if bass is 100-200 on focus,mix without fx is total mess.
To be complete mess use super low bass like 30-50 hz guitar around 41-100 hz and kick around 80-100 so to have absolute mishmash :)
Thanks to harmonics things getting better after eq,compression so on.
By default kick should be 40-100,bass 100 -200,snare or percussion 200-300 after that is harmonic enhancement,but it's just theoretical,in practice especially if recording real instrumets as main part on focus situations is different,so there is limitless ways to make it right or wrong.
Not a mixing engineer,just share my opinion based on many mistakes i made last 7-8 years trying to mix without solid idea what and how.
Cheers :)

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Digital - Serum
Analogue Emulation - U-He Repro 1

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I would also say U-He Repro is a great choice. I love its ultra-low purr, gives an awesome brain massage.

Brainworx Knifonium perhaps...?

Maybe also something from Eplex7, like the Klerhaim N1?

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Output Substance's default preset is "Fat Bass."
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Model 72
Model 84
Repro 1
Repro 5
Audio Realism Bassline
Plogue PortaFM.
Plogue MD
Bx_oberhausen.
Softube Modular
TAL Sampler with a sine wave in S1000 mode.
Massive X

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