It has begun...Reason 3 is close at hand!!

[meister eder]

Damn . I wish I had a place to host pix so I could post it.

Hey, HJack was just pullin ya leg!

[hjack]

propellerheads gina polar

.. hack this access!

[AD80]

@ Hjack.

[LBN]

I'm guess ReBirth v3.0. As a VSTi.

[TotcProductions]

i just dont need a reason for makin my music ...

hahahaha, i think i peed a little when i read that.

[meister eder]

hahahaha, i think i peed a little when i read that.

Disgusting.

[headquest]

But what could they do at this point to get them into "competing form" after they've lost years of development to the competition. Their development cycle is far too slow to expect that they will put out anything remotely as capable and well-spec'd as the competition at this point.

Don't quite know what you mean when you say they have lost years of development... Reason 2.5 came out summer last year, and altho it was a free upgrade it was quite a substantial one.

Also, I don't think that Reason is competing with other products in quite the way that the big sequencers are... although it is not unique, Orion, Storm and Project 5 don't have anything like the same foothold in the market, and FL Studio has a very different paradigm.

As to what could be added, I would hope for at least some of the following:

- GUI that adapts to the resolution of your screen
- redesigned sequencer that is easier to navigate
- a mastering unit bringing better compression, EQ, limiting
- a larger mixer, again with better EQ hardwired
- A Tape deck for audio recording
- An FM synthesiser
- The ability to automate tempo changes/ramping
- The ability to include time-signature changes with ease
- A VST module like the Muse Receptor

Just a few... but some of these would justify an upgrade price.

[Kriminal]

I am suprised that this has not yet been a topic. Or I am suprised I am to stupid to find it.

A week or so something started to happen at the props site. One of the 'blogs' or as they call it a '.plan' by a Dan E. began to have these numbers posted each day. Everyone was speculating on what they could mean.
Now they are hiding small .gif images around their site. They are some sort of puzzle. Nobs, buttons, meters, doo-hickeys are being shown.

Reason 3 is at hand...

They are masters of creating buzz.
I am sure it will knock our socks off.

Some people at reasonstation.net (not .com!!)
have put part of it together.

Lance

Wrong forum, try 'Everything Else' not Hosts

[Homebelly]

As to what could be added, I would hope for at least some of the following:

- GUI that adapts to the resolution of your screen
- redesigned sequencer that is easier to navigate
- a mastering unit bringing better compression, EQ, limiting
- a larger mixer, again with better EQ hardwired
- A Tape deck for audio recording
- An FM synthesiser
- The ability to automate tempo changes/ramping
- The ability to include time-signature changes with ease
- A VST module like the Muse Receptor

Just a few... but some of these would justify an upgrade price.

I hardly ever use it any more,,,but i might be swayed if they added the ability to rout each channel of the mixer to it's own hardware out,, or even into a channel onto another re-mix,, Oh! and make RE-WIRE bi-directional,,

[machinesworking]

The only thing that really keeps me from using Reason is the fact that you cannot trigger pattern changes in ReDrum or the Matrix from the host sequencer in rewire mode.

I don't like using two sequencers for one song, or transferring MIDI files! They fix that in 3, and I'll use it, it's super CPU friendly! and stable as hell!

[Warmonger]

The only thing that really keeps me from using Reason is the fact that you cannot trigger pattern changes in ReDrum or the Matrix from the host sequencer in rewire mode.

I strongly advise people check the manual before proclaiming that the software can and cannot do certain things.

Hint: CC #3

[Whoomph]

Wrong forum, try 'Everything Else' not Hosts

I was just thinking the same thing here !!!!

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[tha_man]

but i might be swayed if they added the ability to rout each channel of the mixer to it's own hardware out

Why using the mixer at all if you need this? Just connect the devices directly to hardware interface, you have volume and pan controls in the rewire host anyway.

or even into a channel onto another re-mix

You can route devices to multiple mixers using spiders in R2.5

and make RE-WIRE bi-directional

Yeah, that would be great.


Basically Reason is for those that are actually making music instead of fiddling aroud with zillions of VSTs, and at the same time want a stable, fun to use and efficient application. I love that they upgrade it only once or twice per year (but then big time), because you need time to really get into the new devices and use them to their full potential. And they don't need to update Reason for stability issues, because there are none

Just look at various professional musicians using VSTs. They have one of the VST hosts, maybe some NI and Waves stuff and a few personal VST favorites, and that's it. Huge amount of gear, for which you don't know how to get the best of it doesn't do you any good, which everybody realise sooner or later. They don't change configuration much, except updating the existing "rack". So the open nature of VST doesn't really do that much for them, except that they have more choices for synths and samplers initially. But this comes at the expense - price of all this is much higher than Reason. Besides that, Waves, NI and sequencer developers also don't update their products that often, except for bugfixes, which it would be much better if they were not needed.

[TeeLangSun]

Don't quite know what you mean when you say they have lost years of development... Reason 2.5 came out summer last year, and altho it was a free upgrade it was quite a substantial one.

Whether it was substantial or not is definately debatable. The release date of 2.5 isn't the point at all. I'm considering where FL Studio, Orion, and Reason all were in November of 2000 when Reason was first released, and where they all are now and how much improvements have been added during that time. FL Studio and Orion have gone on to become massively powerful, all in one studios where you truly can get pretty much everything done under one roof. Reason is still at the status of scratchpad. The others have had countless updates with countless features added to sequencing, a synth or two here and there, and even audio recording and editing, beatslicing built in, support for multi formats built in, and in the case of FL, the list of improvements goes on and on and on, and FL 5's featurelist looks like it has more improvements than everything that's come to Reason over that same 4 years. During all that development time, the Props wasted time take a look at what came to Reason. Sure they made a new sampler, a new synth, a new FX or two but what about all the other "features" that are completely missing from Reason. Just take a look at FL to see what features I'm talking about. Synths are cool, but I'd like to see the features which I enjoy in other sequencers in Reason and I just don't think that will happen. It will probably be one or the other in Reason 3. Either a new synth or two, or some new features added to the sequencing. I'm betting it will be a new synth and a couple of FX while the sequecing and "cool features" will continue to suffer.

[Reverend Rhythm]

I hope not. My hope would be for better comp & EQ and an improved sequencer. I also wonder about the possibility of hard-disk streaming for the sampler. But just a new synth wouldn't cut it.