I think it’s a bit of generic generalisation.
I’d say Spire is a next gen Sylenth.
The others are of quite bigger scope.
If I were Trancer, I’d go with Serum + Spire (the best buddy synths for Trance kind of stuff)
I think it’s a bit of generic generalisation.
When's the sale?PieBerger wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:09 amNot quite 75%, but since we have Brexited, Thomann no longer charge UK customers VAT on digital purchases so during Synapse's 40% sale, you can save an additional 20% on top. This means Dune can be purchased for about £64 (and Obsession/The Legend for £37/36).
Spire is pretty deep. There is a lot there that might not be obvious without a glance at the manual. And they're always putting sound store stuff on sale. Happens very often.MegaPixel wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:38 am
Ok after playing a bit more with Spire... And listening to the shop sound preset bundles/banks... It's a maybe (for me)... If it was Spire or Dune 3 it would be a tough choice, I think you get a lot more with Dune 3 but Spire has a lot of presets which you can buy (not cheap) which are constructed based on trance/edm and tunes we have heard and loved. Another black friday / cyber monday deal decision....
I considered writing a more comprehensive manual a few times. Frankly, it's not very good. Some stuff is missing, some things are only scarcely described.jasonekratz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:00 pm Spire is pretty deep. There is a lot there that might not be obvious without a glance at the manual.
Maybe, the not-very-bright oscillator sound is U-he typical?recursive one wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:45 amThough I agree Hive misses some of that sheen and clarity of Spire or Serum (and that's actually why I like it)
Urs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:07 am I'm on holiday, but here's my quick observation:
Twin & Zebra: No aliasing, efficient, no oversampling
ES2 & Analog: Aliasing, not my cup of tea
impOSCar: No aliasing, oversampled hence probably higher cpu usage
I don't like overly bright oscillators. That's why my stuff donesn't have them.
Urs
To be fair, Spire isn't nearly as demanding as Pigments.cryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:53 pm How long have people been saying that Sylenth1 is too old now, yet it's still as widely used as ever? Anyway, one factor to consider is that Sylenth's CPU hit is way lower than anything else mentioned here, so if you're only going to buy one of them and use it for many tracks, you'll get way more instances of Sylenth in your projects than you would for most of the others (unless/until you freeze or bounce to audio). Hive and Dune aren't too bad, but Spire and Pigments will bring some computers to their knees with just 1 or 2 instances, and I have no idea about Serum (don't own it). That may or may not be a deciding factor for you, but it's something to consider.
Lack of brightness/brilliance can be a serious issue on some soft synth. A synth I'm not allowed to name (which gets hyped a lot here) has that quite severely IMO.Rastkovic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:55 pmMaybe, the not-very-bright oscillator sound is U-he typical?recursive one wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:45 amThough I agree Hive misses some of that sheen and clarity of Spire or Serum (and that's actually why I like it)
I remember discussions about the Zebra oscillators many years ago, the "lack" of brightness.
I'm not 100% sure, but the 'Brilliance' option in Zebra was added because of that discussions? Maybe I'm wrong.
Retrologue 2 and PG-8X have a similar roll-off of high frequencies.chk071 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:54 pm Just having a bit of a laugh about it. Of course, I could name it, but, I don't see the point.
Just replace it with synth XY, which has the same behavior. If you have SPAN, just open up a couple of your synths, play some sawtooth wave notes, and take a look at the upper frequency spectrum. Especially with some old plugins, it's very interesting what's happening up there. Or rather, what's not happening up there.
I like Serum, but seriously the development isn't fast.
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