NI go VST 3
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- KVRAF
- 2063 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME
I really wish they would provide an option what formats to install. If there's a VST3 version available, I don't need VST2 any more. And I especially do not need AAX plugins cluttering my c: drive... IKMM (and UA) get a lot of flak for installing every plugin available regardless whether the user owns it or not, but at least you can select the format.
What I really hope for is Kontakt in VST3, which hopefully improves the output configuration, which is a mess with VST2 (how often did I load older projects and all the output routing of the Kontakt instances was shot...).
Something like Groove Agent, which will automatically activate the output and create a new channel in the mixer if you route an instrument to a new output.
What I really hope for is Kontakt in VST3, which hopefully improves the output configuration, which is a mess with VST2 (how often did I load older projects and all the output routing of the Kontakt instances was shot...).
Something like Groove Agent, which will automatically activate the output and create a new channel in the mixer if you route an instrument to a new output.
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- KVRist
- 128 posts since 19 Jun, 2021
Nice!
- KVRAF
- 35249 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Now they haveLotuz2019 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:02 amI hope they'll also add View Sizes to Replika XT.LoveEnigma18 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:42 am I will update one or two and then try to do some comparisons with those that are not updated and Crush/Mod Pack (since they have scalable GUIs).
- KVRAF
- 5718 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
I don't know if it's true, but some dev, I think it was McDSP told me in the past, that installing the AAX plugins by default was part of their developer agreement with Avid.
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- KVRian
- 1463 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands
aMUSEd wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:45 pmNow they haveLotuz2019 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:02 amI hope they'll also add View Sizes to Replika XT.LoveEnigma18 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:42 am I will update one or two and then try to do some comparisons with those that are not updated and Crush/Mod Pack (since they have scalable GUIs).
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- KVRAF
- 4404 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
Still waiting for Full vst 3 support in Maschine 2 that was promised in 2019.
Looks more and more like they will only support their own Instruments and effects and make Maschine a closed system in the end.
Looks more and more like they will only support their own Instruments and effects and make Maschine a closed system in the end.
- KVRAF
- 23077 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I'm pretty sure that's not what's gonna happen. Non-NI plugin VST3 support is a given to happen at some point.
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- KVRAF
- 4404 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
Then why do they only allow their own vst 3 plugins in Maschine and not open for other vst 3 plugins?EvilDragon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:09 pm I'm pretty sure that's not what's gonna happen. Non-NI plugin VST3 support is a given to happen at some point.
- KVRAF
- 23077 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
My assumption is VST3 hosting and supporting all the different plugin quirks is better done gradually rather than opening the floodgates.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11031 posts since 12 May, 2008
I see they've updated a few more plugins to VST3, some with nice new resizable GUIs, like the distortions and modulations and Replika XT. NI clearly use so many different SDKs, as their line has so many different behaviors, UX, browsers etc. When I think of most big plugin companies, they have consistency across plugins, but NI just pick away a one or two here and there.
I also noticed in Native Access that the description of the latest Komplete Kontrol update was compatibility for current and upcoming NI VST3s. Guitar Rig was included there so I guess it will be released as VST3 very soon.
They quietly updated Massive to VST3 as well, that was a surprise. Also, it's weird ohw when you go into Komplete Kontrol, they have two categories for NI, "Native instruments", which has almost all their plugins, and "Native Instruments GmgH", which has only Super 8. Haha, does nobody at NI notice that they have two different company categories in their own Komplete Product? Do they even test this and go "Oh that's weird".
I also noticed in Native Access that the description of the latest Komplete Kontrol update was compatibility for current and upcoming NI VST3s. Guitar Rig was included there so I guess it will be released as VST3 very soon.
They quietly updated Massive to VST3 as well, that was a surprise. Also, it's weird ohw when you go into Komplete Kontrol, they have two categories for NI, "Native instruments", which has almost all their plugins, and "Native Instruments GmgH", which has only Super 8. Haha, does nobody at NI notice that they have two different company categories in their own Komplete Product? Do they even test this and go "Oh that's weird".
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- KVRAF
- 35249 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Because they want to make sure it works first with plugins they know inside out before opening it up to anythingD-Fusion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:00 pmThen why do they only allow their own vst 3 plugins in Maschine and not open for other vst 3 plugins?EvilDragon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:09 pm I'm pretty sure that's not what's gonna happen. Non-NI plugin VST3 support is a given to happen at some point.
- KVRAF
- 23077 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Of course it was noticed and it is tracked. It will be fixed whenever S8 is slated for an update.Echoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:27 pmthey have two categories for NI, "Native instruments", which has almost all their plugins, and "Native Instruments GmgH", which has only Super 8. Haha, does nobody at NI notice that they have two different company categories in their own Komplete Product? Do they even test this and go "Oh that's weird".
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11031 posts since 12 May, 2008
Ah. Well ok, but it's that way for a pretty long time, so I thought it odd. I hope the next S8 update includes a mono legato mode!EvilDragon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:48 pmOf course it was noticed and it is tracked. It will be fixed whenever S8 is slated for an update.Echoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:27 pmthey have two categories for NI, "Native instruments", which has almost all their plugins, and "Native Instruments GmgH", which has only Super 8. Haha, does nobody at NI notice that they have two different company categories in their own Komplete Product? Do they even test this and go "Oh that's weird".
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- KVRAF
- 4404 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
Do you have any source for this information?aMUSEd wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:30 pmBecause they want to make sure it works first with plugins they know inside out before opening it up to anythingD-Fusion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:00 pmThen why do they only allow their own vst 3 plugins in Maschine and not open for other vst 3 plugins?EvilDragon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:09 pm I'm pretty sure that's not what's gonna happen. Non-NI plugin VST3 support is a given to happen at some point.
I find it weird that they add vst 3 support only to test their own plugins as they keep adding them.
After they added a few of them like they have now the vst 3 implementation should already be good to go.
Testing the vst 3 implementation by only locking it to their own products seems abit fishy to me but i hope you and Mr. E Dragon are correct and i am wrong on this one.
I have never seen other Daws doing this when they added vst 3 support.
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- KVRAF
- 4709 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
The only problem with VSt3, and it's a major problem, is you have to install to C drive and you don't really get a choice about that. Sucks if you have a (fairly common) small SSD C drive dedicated to the OS.