Cubase 10.5 My Console mixer's Panners changed SOLVED!

[dblock]

It's there but it changed. They used to be a bar looking slider that I used the mouse to slide from left to right but now all of sudden it looks like a stick in the middle that you toggle left to right.Hope this makes sense. How can I change it back? tia

[jancivil]

in Preferences/VST there is a dialog for default panner mode, you want Stereo Balance Panner.

[dblock]

in Preferences/VST there is a dialog for default panner mode, you want Stereo Balance Panner.

Hi jancivil. Thanks for responding. I went there and checked and it's already on default panning mode. Here's what I'm talking about in the console.
This is what my original pan looked like...


and now it's like this in the the big square.



I don't know what happened to get the panner box that way but I just want to get the panner box to look like the first pic.

[Googly Smythe]

They look like the "surround sound" panners. I think that they usually appear automatically if an instrument has that capability.
I get them with some HALion presets.
EDIT:
I just checked - they are the 5.1 panners. I opened Absynth and HALion and those panners appeared, removed them the panners reverted back. It's automatic behaviour, and every channel gets them.
I think maybe you must have 5.1 activated somewhere.

[dblock]

They look like the "surround sound" panners. I think that they usually appear automatically if an instrument has that capability.
I get them with some HALion presets.
EDIT:
I just checked - they are the 5.1 panners. I opened Absynth and HALion and those panners appeared, removed them the panners reverted back. It's automatic behaviour, and every channel gets them.
I think maybe you must have 5.1 activated somewhere.

Hey Googly Smythe. You're right! After looking again I noticed the little 5.1 in two of the boxes.It must be a global setting somewhere since it' across all mixer channels and not just one. All I have to do now is figure out how to deactivate it. Thanks for you input!

[jancivil]

for future reference, as pertains to "already on default panning mode":
You choose the default panning mode; the one with the bar in the middle is "Balance" as opposed to "Dual" or "Combined".
Combined is a power panner, Balance robs the side you've moved away from from power, Combined doesn't. Dual I haven't looked at. A fresh preferences does default to Balance, but one may prefer the other two as their default. I use combined.
So w. Combined, you are adjusting the stereo field, as opposed to turning down the volume on the side you move away from.

[Weasel-Boy]

Google Smythe has given you the correct reason: one of the plug-ins loaded in your Project is loaded as a 5.1 (surround) instrument. Besides HALion and Absynth, A loaded 5.1 instance of Kontakt will automatically make Cubase display surround panners. AFAIK, there are no preferences to disable this. You’d have to swap out the surround plug-in version for a non-surround version to get normal (stereo) panners back in view.

[dblock]

Google Smythe has given you the correct reason: one of the plug-ins loaded in your Project is loaded as a 5.1 (surround) instrument. Besides HALion and Absynth, A loaded 5.1 instance of Kontakt will automatically make Cubase display surround panners. AFAIK, there are no preferences to disable this. You’d have to swap out the surround plug-in version for a non-surround version to get normal (stereo) panners back in view.

Thanks alot for confirming Weasel-Boy. Thanks exactly what Googly Smythe said but for some dumb reason I was looking in the wrong place when he said it clear as a bell.

[dblock]

They look like the "surround sound" panners. I think that they usually appear automatically if an instrument has that capability.
I get them with some HALion presets.
EDIT:
I just checked - they are the 5.1 panners. I opened Absynth and HALion and those panners appeared, removed them the panners reverted back. It's automatic behaviour, and every channel gets them.
I think maybe you must have 5.1 activated somewhere.

You just made my day!! One of my Kontakt instances was loaded as 5.1 and just as you said,once I removed it the entire mixer went back to my normal setup.
I was looking at EVERYTHING in the console but that. This was driving me nuts!
Thanks alot Googly Smythe!

[Googly Smythe]