Fruity VFX Envelope Alternative for Third-party Plugins?

[Domenico KVR]

In the FL piano roll, you can make notes different colours to represent different MIDI voices.
I want to map each individual colour to a specific MIDI-triggered envelope, just as with the VFX Envelope controller plugin. The reason I'm not using VFX Envelope is that it only works with third-party plugins, unfortunately.
So... The simplest way I found to do this, up to now, is not that simple and rather cumbersome... It involves routing the initial MIDI signal to VFX Color Mapper and then outputting the sorted/separated voice signals from the latter to separate envelope controllers, which control my desired parameters inside my third-party plugin...
Is there any way to use a single instance of Fruity Envelope Controller? If not, is there any alternative plugin which could do the job? Using four plus instances of Envelope Controller is really not ideal, in my opinion.

Thank you!

P.S. I don't know why I'm writing this here, but the FL Patcher is an amazing tool.

P.S.S. KVR has automatically linked "Envelope" to some product page, even though this has nothing to do in context here.

[ferez21]

Fruity Envelope controller can output 8 different envelope articulations per instance, so you can use just 2 instances to cover 16.

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[xbitz]

^^^AFAIK there is no note color/MIDI channel filtering in FEnvelope, btw. I'm doing the same in Bitwig just here VFX Color Mapper > Channel Filter, Fruity Envelope Controller > Gatekeeper

P.S. I don't know why I'm writing this here, but the FL Patcher is an amazing tool.

device bars in Ableton/Bitwig are more versatile (- cables) especially in Bitwig (Ableton Live does not support MIDI channels in its inner routing) IMO

[Domenico KVR]

Fruity Envelope controller can output 8 different envelope articulations per instance, so you can use just 2 instances to cover 16.

Yes but this will launch all eight envelopes within a single Fruity Envelope Controller at once, whatever the note colour (unless I'm missing on something, of course ).

xbitz seems to have it right here:

^^^AFAIK there is no note color/MIDI channel filtering in FEnvelope, btw.

P.S. Thank you for your response.

[Domenico KVR]

I'm doing the same in Bitwig just here VFX Color Mapper > Channel Filter, Fruity Envelope Controller > Gatekeeper

Cool. Does this mean that Polyverse Music Gatekeeper recognises MIDI voices and routes these to different envelopes?

[ferez21]

Fruity Envelope controller can output 8 different envelope articulations per instance, so you can use just 2 instances to cover 16.

Yes but this will launch all eight envelopes within a single Fruity Envelope Controller at once, whatever the note colour (unless I'm missing on something, of course ).

xbitz seems to have it right here:

^^^AFAIK there is no note color/MIDI channel filtering in FEnvelope, btw.

P.S. Thank you for your response.

Hmm, I don't have FL anymore so can't check, but one way you can go about that is to assign each envelope to a midi key (using the keyboard in the top right side of Fruity Envelope Controller) on a lower unused octave, and trigger different envelopes independently using that octave.
So instead of different colors/midi cahnnels, you use notes to trigger different articulations, imo this gives you more flexibility.
Make sure to filter these notes out from your instrument though so they don't play sounds too.

[xbitz]

I'm doing the same in Bitwig just here VFX Color Mapper > Channel Filter, Fruity Envelope Controller > Gatekeeper

Cool. Does this mean that Polyverse Music Gatekeeper recognises MIDI voices and routes these to different envelopes?

nope it has note based mapping similarly to Fruity Envelope Controller

[Domenico KVR]

Hmm, I don't have FL anymore so can't check, but one way you can go about that is to assign each envelope to a midi key (using the keyboard in the top right side of Fruity Envelope Controller) on a lower unused octave, and trigger different envelopes independently using that octave.
So instead of different colors/midi cahnnels, you use notes to trigger different articulations, imo this gives you more flexibility.
Make sure to filter these notes out from your instrument though so they don't play sounds too.

Sweet! I believe that's even better for what I need, actually. I'll try that out.
You rock. Thank you!

nope it has note based mapping similarly to Fruity Envelope Controller

OK! Thanks for the info!