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soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:04 pm

hi

for a change, i'm listening to a lot of 20th century classical music (i have an exam coming).

stravinsky, schoenberg, scriabin, hindemith...

i've always kept myself away from such music, but now that i have to listen i find it so interesting and inspirational.

anybody else digs it? recommendations?

thanks

k

p.s.: does anybody know of a classical music forum?

TechNoiZ · Post by **TechNoiZ** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:11 pm

Webern , Webern, Webern and ...erm Webern

His total output fits on 3 cds.

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:11 pm

Hiya

Check out Symphony of Sorrowful Songs by Henryk Gorecki

It is rather marvellous

Also St Luke Passion by Krzysztof Penderecki

Another big

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:14 pm

Duke Ellington.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:20 pm

Bartok
Kodaly
Ligeti
Penderecki
Berg
Schoenberg
Zemlinski
Webern
Ives
Berio
Orff
Shostakovich
Messian (try "Quartet for the end of time" or "Harawi")
Ravel (esp Chanson Madecasse)
Mahler

SparkySpark · Post by **SparkySpark** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:22 pm

I didn't see Sjostakovitij (the spelling differs in different countries) there... ...or Britten!

Check out his symphonies and string quartets, I enjoy String Quartet No. 8 most.

I also enjoy Andrew Lloyd Webber's Requiem (for his father) and Philip Glass's Koyanisquatsii.

These are three not so difficult recommendations - very good but not too harsh sounding.

Bela Bartok's 4th string quartet might please you as well.

My favourite piece of the 20th Century is The Lark Ascending by Vaughn Williams, but it is written in a more romantic style, as the musci of most Brits of the early century.

I bet there are many forums discussing this matter, but I'm not aware of any (except for one that I moderated a couple of years ago...). Here is a link to the "chronicles" I and more people wrote on music aesthetics of contemporary art music (a term I prefer): http://www.noteheads.com/community/chro ... nicles.pdf

I wrote my Master's degree thesis on contemporary art music and right now I am completing two chapters for a book on Dag Wirén, a Swedish composer whose third and fourth symphonies you might like (BTW).

Enjoy!

/SparkySpark (a.k.a. as Petter)

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:24 pm

TechNoiZ wrote:Webern , Webern, Webern and ...erm Webern

His total output fits on 3 cds.

I think Varese and Berg were equally fruitfull.

@nufflink: oh yes. he's not regarded as a 20th century classical music composer though (exam stuff you see).

Far East Suite mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:25 pm

Now I know this isnt exactly what your asking for, but i highly recommend anything by Thomas Newman, Glass, Goldenthall, Young, Serra etc. The film scores these guys knock out are absolutley amzing, and always enrich me with new influences and ideas.

Also, I guess a study of the 20th wouldnt be complete without a quick butchers at the boy Cage!

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:27 pm

god, I forgot about Philip Glass

Also does Erik Satie count as a 20thC composer? I like his stuff a lot.

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:29 pm

Terry Riley mmmmmm

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:32 pm

soulata wrote:@nufflink: oh yes. he's not regarded as a 20th century classical music composer though (exam stuff you see).

I beg to differ. However, if you insist on western art music, Milhaud is less boring than most.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:43 pm

nuffink wrote:
soulata wrote:@nufflink: oh yes. he's not regarded as a 20th century classical music composer though (exam stuff you see).
I beg to differ. However, if you insist on western art music, Milhaud is less boring than most.

Yeah so do I. Nina Simone always hated the term jazz and referred to it as "African classical". Classical is such a loose term anyway - strictly speaking "classical" only refers to one relatively short period in the development of music. Ellington, Mingus, Abdullah Ibrahim, Shepp etc all treated their art with the sophistication of any of the above composer's imho - they were not merely making trivial "pop" but experimenting seriously with new forms of expression.

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:47 pm

personally - i agree with you both.

but ellington and mingus no matter how great the music won't do me any good with my exam.

otherwise, thanks. really.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:55 pm

I understand - still it seems rather arbitrary that they probably would count Milhaud's "La Création du Monde" or even that shite by Lloyd Webber but not a work like Mingus's "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady"

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:04 pm

@aMUSEd

how come you name my favorite Mingus record in the first try

i'm glad we agree.

unfair really - the way it is.