CrispyTuner - Autotune/pitch shifter (Crazy good and crazy cheap)

[Ploki]

waves can have ambisonic and i won't touch it with a ten foot pole

[simmo75]

This guy has been spamming everyone on Gearslutz too, he is quite obviously obsessed with CrispyTuner and the dev.
He should be banned, I received about 6 PM’s over there… I’m sure I’ll be getting more now… creepytuna…

[rasmusklump]

Do you also use Mono Speakers & Mono Microphones ? lol, and mono only support would be fine, if CrispyTuner was a radio voice emulation plugin or an old telephone voice emulation plugin.

Emm, yes, I have two mono speakers and not a single stereo microphone....

[Ploki]

stereo microphones are wonderful tho - wish i had more.

but in any case, i don't think any other autotune sums to mono. it's kind of unnecessary, in a stereo track it could simply operate as dual-mono with shared controls.

[Warped Effect]

Emm, yes, I have two mono speakers and not a single stereo microphone....

My Blue Yeti Microphone is a stereo microphone, so what makes you think stereo microphones are still rare ?, they were probably rare in the early 2000's.

[rasmusklump]

I don't care if they are rare or not, I don't need one...

[jens]

Yes, kid, vocals are ALWAYS recorded with a single channel microphone unless you record a choir (there you'd use any amount of channels up to six or eight perhaps depending on the size and type of choir you record - even then you'd probably not use stereo-mics on it but rather single-channel ones you'd then mix down into a stereo bus), and then a pitch-correction plugin where you would be able to pitch-correct both channels independently would neither work nor make much sense usually.

[jens]

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but in any case, i don't think any other autotune sums to mono. it's kind of unnecessary, in a stereo track it could simply operate as dual-mono with shared controls.

Which is the way Crispy Tuner does it too, as far as I understand it - I have no experience with it yet and not that I'd ever would want to put it on a stereo-track anyway (for obvious reasons), but in the manual I don't see anything about summing to mono. All it says is that it assumes the average pitch of both individual channels as the base-pitch.

[jens]

Regarding stereo-miking:

Let's play devil's advocate for a moment and say you really record two singers standing on each side of a stereo mic:

you won't have one singer (i.e. on pitch to correct) on each channel. Instead you will have prominence of one pitch on each channel and a certain lesser gain-amount of a second pitch. You won't ever have total seperation. And for this reason, even putting an instance of a tuning plugin on each channel probably would not work. I assume you'd end up with a dreadful sounding result.
And as soon as there would be more than two singers (let's say a small choir of four), the prroblem would only intensify. And anyway the slight pitch-deviations between the individual singers are a major part of what makes a choir a choir.

[Ploki]

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but in any case, i don't think any other autotune sums to mono. it's kind of unnecessary, in a stereo track it could simply operate as dual-mono with shared controls.

Which is the way Crispy Tuner does it too, as far as I understand it - I have no experience with it yet and not that I'd ever would want to put it on a stereo-track anyway (for obvious reasons), but in the manual I don't see anything about summing to mono. All it says is that it assumes the average pitch of both individual channels as the base-pitch.

No - it sums the input to mono . Something panned left would end up in both channels equally

[Ploki]

Regarding stereo-miking:

Let's play devil's advocate for a moment and say you really record two singers standing on each side of a stereo mic:

you won't have one singer (i.e. on pitch to correct) on each channel. Instead you will have prominence of one pitch on each channel and a certain lesser gain-amount of a second pitch. You won't ever have total seperation. And for this reason, even putting an instance of a tuning plugin on each channel probably would not work. I assume you'd end up with a dreadful sounding result.
And as soon as there would be more than two singers (let's say a small choir of four), the prroblem would only intensify. And anyway the slight pitch-deviations between the individual singers are a major part of what makes a choir a choir.

One singer two mics

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Regarding stereo-miking:

Let's play devil's advocate for a moment and say you really record two singers standing on each side of a stereo mic:

you won't have one singer (i.e. on pitch to correct) on each channel. Instead you will have prominence of one pitch on each channel and a certain lesser gain-amount of a second pitch. You won't ever have total seperation. And for this reason, even putting an instance of a tuning plugin on each channel probably would not work. I assume you'd end up with a dreadful sounding result.
And as soon as there would be more than two singers (let's say a small choir of four), the prroblem would only intensify. And anyway the slight pitch-deviations between the individual singers are a major part of what makes a choir a choir.

One singer two mics

One singer two mics could be tuned in dual mono, but then you're relying heavily on the detection algorithm keeping the correction exactly the same. I wouldn't trust that. I'd bet in the real world, you'd get heavy phasing. At which point, you'd be better off mono summing a stereo file and doing an average correction to avoid phase issues. There's just not a whole lot of stereo vocal recording in the world of pop, rock, hip/hop. And this one self-described troll (his words, not mine), using it to troll people on video games is a silly use case.

[Ploki]

Yeah, certainly true.

Just saying that there’s no reason to sum down to mono. I sometimes have i.e dbls dualtracked and i just open a dual-mono instance in logic - but it’s really more logical to use a dualmono path for stereo input

[Warped Effect]

edit: double post.

[Qkimat]

Damn, I came here to read what others think of the CrispyTuner, and I see a shieeetstorm taking place... And people putting pitch correction on master bus
Ok, now to the point. I use the basic Melodyne that comes with Studio One to fix my bad singing, and sometimes, when I feel adventurous, Graillon free to give it a more 'electronic' or 'magical' sound. On the last project I used the more adventurous option on the chorus/hook vocals, and a more clean sounding tone on the rest of the singing, because Graillon made it sound too synthetic.
bx_CrispyTuner comes in. Twist a few knobs, fix some misaligned notes, and bam! The perfect tone.
So, comparing this to Melodyne and Grailon, it has a different tone for sure, and it's mostly easier to dial in. Overall, for the price, and the availability in the subscription model, it's great, and well worth it if you don't have/want auto-tune. Nice and useful.