KVR Audio

juanito · Post by **juanito** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:04 pm

I just downloaded the Demo and I gotta tell yah, the Latency is TERRRIBLE. I got Cubase SX dialed in at less than 2 miliseconds. Not so with Tracktion. I have to bring the buffers up at around 5 miliseconds to avoid the nasty pops and clicks.

Unless anyone can suggest how to streamline this puppy, I'm taking it to the vet for some proper sleep.

It's a great app otherwise if you can avoid the pops and clicks.

By the way, I got a 2.6ghz, 1 gig of ram . . .

*shrug*

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:05 pm

I'm not thinking it'll be absolutely enormous, either. Which is fine, as long as there is:

-revised piano roll (I don't find the current one heinous, but it's not ideal)
-cycle recording

That's about it. Slightly better implementation of looping (both MIDI and audio) would be nice, but I've been doing just fine the manual way. Still, no point turning this thread into a feature discussion thread like the bazillion we already have.

Groundhoggers unite!

Greg

valley · Post by **valley** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:08 pm

hipshaker wrote: Nope. Wasn't there. And I downloaded the bigger file with examples. I'm using it on OSX though, so maybe that's why??

good question - I dunno if they had gotten those plugs ported to mac yet. They weren't a few months back.

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:08 pm

hipshaker wrote: Nope. Wasn't there. And I downloaded the bigger file with examples. I'm using it on OSX though, so maybe that's why??

Sorry, I should have asked. Supposedly its still in the process of being ported to OSX. So no luck yet.

valley · Post by **valley** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:10 pm

juanito wrote:I just downloaded the Demo and I gotta tell yah, the Latency is TERRRIBLE. I got Cubase SX dialed in at less than 2 miliseconds. Not so with Tracktion. I have to bring the buffers up at around 5 miliseconds to avoid the nasty pops and clicks.

I've run T with a buffer size of 64 bytes before and it was fine, and my PC is a chunk slower than yours.

What soundcard are you using?

Try enabling 'asio direct mode' in the settings - it helps for some people.

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:13 pm

Is this time limited. I suppose the link would not be up after T2 is released and then the free version will only last until you reinstall windos and need a different key?

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:15 pm

valley wrote:
jens wrote: The update will be huge.
I don't actually think so.

My huch is that it's going to be what we have now, only polished and extended.

Of course we don't know what extras mackie are going to thro in to sweeten the pot, but I think we could make the mistake of getting too excited here.

I think this marketing makes only sense if the update is so substantial that most of the people who get T1 for free now and become regular users will indeed upgrade instead of saying: 'Nah, I'll rather stick with what I got for free.'

This giving out of T1 for free is sign of a huge self-confidence. - It's like they are telling us:
'Every user will upgrade anyway!'

valley · Post by **valley** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:15 pm

morelia wrote:Is this time limited. I suppose the link would not be up after T2 is released and then the free version will only last until you reinstall windos and need a different key?

I'm sure the offer wont hang around. Whether you will be able to renew your key I don't know, but Mackie would need to keep support for T1 users who never upgrade to T2 so I see no reason for them to cut off NFR users.

valley · Post by **valley** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:18 pm

jens wrote: This giving out of T1 for free is sign of a huge self-confidence.

it would seem so, but maybe not in the way you are thinking.

A few possibilities that spring to mind:

- T2 is truly awesome on every level.

- T2 is polished T1 but with some *really* cool free extras (IE more final mix addons).

- T2 is accpetable but Mackie will offer some serious deals on customzied Tracktion hardware.

- Mackie haven't used Live4.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:22 pm

AD80 wrote:Wow I'm late to the party! This is very cool news for everybody I think. And at the very least you can use Tracktion as a free mastering app with Final mix even if you never use Tracktion as a sequencer (which I highly doubt ). Very cool stuff indeed.

yeah thats exactly what I'd use tracktion for.. final mix is pretty nice.. very deep.. especially for a freebie.

and it doesnt really need a manual - just click the ? mark in the corner and it shows how everything works..

that said.. i didnt get my license key immediately because for some reason the n in .net from my email address was missing..

so those of you who havent recieved their license key yet, check your my.mackie.com profile and make sure the email address is in there right

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:23 pm

valley wrote:- Mackie haven't used Live4.

They have been sitting in that proverbial cave on Mars, havnt they?

Ja.x · Post by **Ja.x** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:31 pm

I suspect that Mackie's interest in (future) Tracktion as to do with hardware. So T2 will be at least compatible with Mackie/Hui protocols, that's for sure. What else? In fact Tracktion doesn't need much more except to get rid of that akward editor/piano roll (and get a real one) and better loop management; a loop pool like Muzys would be great.

leonard · Post by **leonard** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:37 pm

peter_neo wrote:Do I have to register this version, cuz I still haven't recieved the keyfile?

If I got it right, you receive the keyfile once you have provided your computer ID, which would explain why I haven't gotten any mail from 'em yet.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:39 pm

valley wrote:
jens wrote: This giving out of T1 for free is sign of a huge self-confidence.
it would seem so, but maybe not in the way you are thinking.

A few possibilities that spring to mind:

- T2 is truly awesome on every level.

- T2 is polished T1 but with some *really* cool free extras (IE more final mix addons).

- T2 is accpetable but Mackie will offer some serious deals on customzied Tracktion hardware.

- Mackie haven't used Live4.

I doubt the option of the hardware argument - how many % of the users would be interested in it?

Doesn't make much sense to me and would bne a strange way to lure people into using Mackie-hardware.

'O.k. - we could give the readers of guitar-player etc. aserious discount on out products but instead we're gonna waste this new great sequencer we're doing the marketing for and maybe if we offer the new users of it a serious deal on our products some might take the chance.'

fishbowl.tucson.az · Post by **fishbowl.tucson.az** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:42 pm

morning wrote:"Do I need Tracktion? No, I got Cubase. Am I going to claim my free copy? Hell yes!"

why? why waste time? if you don´t need it,
i was going to doanload too, but then thought why?
im very pleased whit eXT, why to waste time..

How is it a waste of time? Grab it, or wish you had!
Having something that you might use is better than not having it if you need it in the future. It's like a 5mo program. It's not a big deal.

I'm so busy, if I'd bought Tracktion whenever it came out, I probably wouldn't have even gotten round to installing it yet

download of FREE Traction sequencer from Mackie's site