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killmaster · Post by **killmaster** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 pm

Pre-Reason 12 release questions please:

1) do I need the companion app in order to run non prescription Reason 12 beta? (annoying it pops up every time I start Reason 12 beta) Seems like I automatically got set up with a Reason+ subscription without knowing it. Expires in 3 days.

2) is there a list of instruments that will be included in Reason 12?

3) I'm very interested in getting Parsec, Friktion and Alogoritm (they sound much much better than I imagined!). Will any of these be included in the release version of standard Reason 12?

WasteLand · Post by **WasteLand** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:47 pm

killmaster wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 pm Pre-Reason 12 release questions please:

1) do I need the companion app in order to run non prescription Reason 12 beta? (annoying it pops up every time I start Reason 12 beta) Seems like I automatically got set up with a Reason+ subscription without knowing it. Expires in 3 days.

2) is there a list of instruments that will be included in Reason 12?

3) I'm very interested in getting Parsec, Friktion and Alogoritm (they sound much much better than I imagined!). Will any of these be included in the release version of standard Reason 12?

1) no (but if you have a sub, you get that annoying pop up...)
2) only a new sampler will be included, it seems, perhaps a utility.. EDIT; so the list, is the same as Reason 11 + sampler, it seems..
3) friktion and algoritm you must buy, they are a part of reason+, that is the attraction of the sub, but if you count, friktion and algoritm in sale + reason 12 update, is cheaper.. i had to look it up, i have reason 11 suite, Parsec is also not included.

the reason (...) it are seperate RE's, as always. in sale they are worth it, i think. (don't have friktion or algoritm, by the way..)

killmaster · Post by **killmaster** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:36 pm

WasteLand wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:47 pm
killmaster wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 pm Pre-Reason 12 release questions please:

1) do I need the companion app in order to run non prescription Reason 12 beta? (annoying it pops up every time I start Reason 12 beta) Seems like I automatically got set up with a Reason+ subscription without knowing it. Expires in 3 days.

2) is there a list of instruments that will be included in Reason 12?

3) I'm very interested in getting Parsec, Friktion and Alogoritm (they sound much much better than I imagined!). Will any of these be included in the release version of standard Reason 12?
1) no (but if you have a sub, you get that annoying pop up...)
2) only a new sampler will be included, it seems, perhaps a utility.. EDIT; so the list, is the same as Reason 11 + sampler, it seems..
3) friktion and algoritm you must buy, they are a part of reason+, that is the attraction of the sub, but if you count, friktion and algoritm in sale + reason 12 update, is cheaper.. i had to look it up, i have reason 11 suite, Parsec is also not included.

the reason (...) it are seperate RE's, as always. in sale they are worth it, i think. (don't have friktion or algoritm, by the way..)

Thanks! Super helpful. By the way, I deleted companion and couldn’t open reason beta after that without re-installing companion. Maybe cause the beta is sub?

WasteLand · Post by **WasteLand** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:06 pm

killmaster wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:36 pm
WasteLand wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:47 pm
killmaster wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 pm Pre-Reason 12 release questions please:

1) do I need the companion app in order to run non prescription Reason 12 beta? (annoying it pops up every time I start Reason 12 beta) Seems like I automatically got set up with a Reason+ subscription without knowing it. Expires in 3 days.

2) is there a list of instruments that will be included in Reason 12?

3) I'm very interested in getting Parsec, Friktion and Alogoritm (they sound much much better than I imagined!). Will any of these be included in the release version of standard Reason 12?
1) no (but if you have a sub, you get that annoying pop up...)
2) only a new sampler will be included, it seems, perhaps a utility.. EDIT; so the list, is the same as Reason 11 + sampler, it seems..
3) friktion and algoritm you must buy, they are a part of reason+, that is the attraction of the sub, but if you count, friktion and algoritm in sale + reason 12 update, is cheaper.. i had to look it up, i have reason 11 suite, Parsec is also not included.

the reason (...) it are seperate RE's, as always. in sale they are worth it, i think. (don't have friktion or algoritm, by the way..)
Thanks! Super helpful. By the way, I deleted companion and couldn’t open reason beta after that without re-installing companion. Maybe cause the beta is sub?

i think you must own 11 (suite), or a sub... for reason 12 beta? i think it is mentioned somewhere..
i am not sure, but pretty sure..

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:39 pm

you need to install codemeter if you own Reason 11 and don't want to log on when you start it up.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:56 pm

killmaster wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 pm Pre-Reason 12 release questions please:

1) do I need the companion app in order to run non prescription Reason 12 beta? (annoying it pops up every time I start Reason 12 beta) Seems like I automatically got set up with a Reason+ subscription without knowing it. Expires in 3 days.

2) is there a list of instruments that will be included in Reason 12?

3) I'm very interested in getting Parsec, Friktion and Alogoritm (they sound much much better than I imagined!). Will any of these be included in the release version of standard Reason 12?

1. Right now Companion is only required to run Reason+. That said you can check whether or not it launches and opens when you open R+. It’s not needed for Reason 11 perpetual licenses, but it is unknown whether or not Reason 12 perpetual (not sub) will require the install.

2. Combinator 2 (which has been confirmed is going to be pretty sweet), and a new creative sampler.

3. No. You either have to buy them separately for perpetual licenses or subscribe to Reason+.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:17 am

SLiC wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:29 am If for any reason it is not installed (I had to re-install once after demo Reason subscription) you can get it here: https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... r-Download

I think the subscription uses its own authoriser where as the perpetual licences uses above (but I may be wrong!)

My struggles with authorisation still continue. I have noticed that under my user account I have 2 instances of Reason 12 beta, but can’t see Reason +, hence I’m asked to login every time when I launch Reason.
I’ve submitted the ticket with support and awaiting their answer.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:53 am

Friktion and Algoritm were instant buy yesterday! As much as I dislike the protection scheme, I really like those devices and the workflow in Reason!
Anyway, my love won in the end and I ended buying a 2nd hand license for Reason 10! I might upgrade to R12 later so I use the rack edition inside Bitwig or Live, although I think I can use Rewire still in Live with R10 but not sure if Live dropped Rewire in the latest version?

There is no use! I'm a polygamous person

so I've ended with 3 perfect working platforms (OSes) and at least 5 DAWs (I love them all

)

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:21 am

Atlatnesiti wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:17 am
SLiC wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:29 am If for any reason it is not installed (I had to re-install once after demo Reason subscription) you can get it here: https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... r-Download

I think the subscription uses its own authoriser where as the perpetual licences uses above (but I may be wrong!)
My struggles with authorisation still continue. I have noticed that under my user account I have 2 instances of Reason 12 beta, but can’t see Reason +, hence I’m asked to login every time when I launch Reason.
I’ve submitted the ticket with support and awaiting their answer.

I am also just seeing the 12 beta rather than Reason+ but I am not sure if that is because the beta is more advanced (a later version) than Reason + I guess. To be honest with having Reason 11 suite, the Reason 12 beta and now Reason+ I am not sure what version(s) I should be seeing!

I could delete the beta and download 12 via Reason+ installer, but I think I will wait until the next version with the sampler which is due next.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:25 pm

EnGee wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:53 am Friktion and Algoritm were instant buy yesterday! As much as I dislike the protection scheme, I really like those devices and the workflow in Reason!
Anyway, my love won in the end and I ended buying a 2nd hand license for Reason 10! I might upgrade to R12 later so I use the rack edition inside Bitwig or Live, although I think I can use Rewire still in Live with R10 but not sure if Live dropped Rewire in the latest version?

There is no use! I'm a polygamous person so I've ended with 3 perfect working platforms (OSes) and at least 5 DAWs (I love them all )

You bought them full price?! They're both awesome, but you should've waited for a 50% sale probably somewhere at the end of summer (usually). Too bad they don't do deal of the week anymore...

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:27 pm

SLiC wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:03 pm
antic604 wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:35 pm
The +/- 50% was from a poll on RT: https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... &t=7520873

I don't think this poll has anything to do with people leaving Reason completely for other DAWS?

''Assuming that not everyone here work in Reason standalone exclusively, I was wondering which other DAW hosts your Reason Rack Plugin''

Live and/or Bitwig is a lot of peoples 'other' DAW!

I know, I created that poll. But it's reasonable the statistic would be similar for those that moved entirely away from Reason DAW.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:14 pm

Where the F is recycle? If they’re not going to release any updates they should open source it so that better developers can work on it.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:39 pm

antic604 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:27 pm
SLiC wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:03 pm
antic604 wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:35 pm
The +/- 50% was from a poll on RT: https://forum.reasontalk.com/viewtopic. ... &t=7520873

I don't think this poll has anything to do with people leaving Reason completely for other DAWS?

''Assuming that not everyone here work in Reason standalone exclusively, I was wondering which other DAW hosts your Reason Rack Plugin''

Live and/or Bitwig is a lot of peoples 'other' DAW!
I know, I created that poll. But it's reasonable the statistic would be similar for those that moved entirely away from Reason DAW.

Hmm, I don't agree at all....'if' you were moving from Reason completely as 'the DAW' wasn't strong enough (and that isn't what the poll says) I don't think you would move to Live- it has many strengths but its no better (and in many ways not as good) as Reason as a linear DAW.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:40 pm

masterhiggins wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:14 pm Where the F is recycle? If they’re not going to release any updates they should open source it so that better developers can work on it.

https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/product/recycle-22/

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:34 pm

masterhiggins wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:14 pm Where the F is recycle? If they’re not going to release any updates they should open source it so that better developers can work on it.

I doubt they'd open source it - as long as they own the tech, it's an opportunity for them to integrate more (if not all) of ReCycle's features into a full version Reason standalone upgrade. I can't imagine anyone on the planet buying ReCycle anymore - I would wager it barely contributes to RS's bottom line. I haven't bought a sound library for REX files in like... 12-13 years?

Reason 12 announced