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VST, AU, AAX, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion
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254 posts since 14 Oct, 2020

Post Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:18 pm

zerocrossing wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:55 pm
accessdune3 wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:58 pm
zerocrossing wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:29 pm
If you spent the time that you used complaining about the patch browser on learning how to make your own great sounds, you wouldn’t need a great patch browser.
Thats such a nonsense. What does knowing how to create patches has to do with patch browser has to do ? I have made over 300 usable sounds, its hard to navigate. Having a simple favourite or tagging or rename in place would be so much easier.
Your problem is you make more than you can use or need. Just make patches as needed and you’ll never have to worry. Name them things like songname_bass.
What are you talking about? You don't know me or my way of making music, creating patches. So please dont advice me (because its quite useless to me) in a way like you would know my workflow.

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KVRian
560 posts since 27 Nov, 2014

Post Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:46 am

Can someone help? When saving patch with using wav file, will Dune 3 save patch within wav file ?

KVRAF
2288 posts since 30 Dec, 2014

Post Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:05 am

Stan Navi wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:46 am
Can someone help? When saving patch with using wav file, will Dune 3 save patch within wav file ?
Ref to the wave file is retained when you save a patch. Saving a patch will retain everything.

Wav files are not merged, in any way with patch files themselves. Both the wave file and patch are separate so transfer to another computer for example, would be an individual patch and wave file.
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KVRist
37 posts since 20 Sep, 2010 from Paris

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:32 am

Mon challenge:
Créer deux orgues à partir des samples de mon B3 et mon Vox continental (UK 60's) sur un synthé.
J'ai essayé pas mal de synthés et seul Dune3 me permet d'arriver à mon but grâce à ses 8 voix x 3 Oscillateurs.
Le résultat est fantastique.
Avec deux Msgs en dessinant deux sinusoides inversées j'obtient un vibrato digne des originaux.
Et enfin un Chorus me permettant de simuler facilement une Leslie.... (en AfterTouch)
Avec un oscillateur 3 en sampler, je simule sans problème la percussion.
Pour commander les 9 flutes + la percussion: 8 voix sur l'oscillateur 1, 1 Voix sur l'osciillateur 2, 1 voix sur l'oscillateur 3 en sampler pour simuler la percussion.
Chapeau bas à Synapse !
Je me suis concocté un B3 comme j'aime, pas mou du genou comme sur les B3 samplés.... Un régal !
Au chapitre des qualités:
• L'ergonomie, tout est clair.
• La documentation ou tout est bien expliqué.
• Pas de glisser déposé (je n'aime pas et je trouve cela superflu vu l'ergonomie de Dune 3)
• les 8 voies sur 3 Oscillateurs !
• Et le résultat sonore incroyable et tellement vivant.

Au chapitre des défauts:
• KTRK sur les filtres ne permettant pas de couper les aigues sur les notes du haut.
• Dans la fenêtre Oscillateur, Synthesis Type l'affichage de la Wavetable est faux quand on change de voix.
• Dans les presets MSGS les formes simples de bases: Sinus ... etc.

Au niveau des améliorations:
Quelque chose que l'on ne trouve sur aucun synthé et pourtant indispensable.
Pouvoir splitter le clavier, pour se faire un C0-C1 uniquement Basse.
Idée:
En Mod Matrix:
- Source=Voix x ON, Destination = Keyboard Note, AMT = Note Number
- Source=Voix x OFF, Destination = Keyboard Note, AMT = Note Number.

Félicitations Richard, vous avez le meilleurs des synthés .... je rêve du même en Hardware.

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:35 am

Here's a way to do keyboard splits using a wavetable slot in Osc2.

Note how I have two voices set up with different waveforms for Osc1.
Using voice assignments for Osc1 volume and Osc2 WT slots that are either 1 or -1, I can use keytrack to set a position in the WT and use the respective value to either increase or decrease Osc1 volume depending on the voice.

Edit: Turn interpolation down to zero for both voices if you want a hard transition.

You would need to add similar entries for Osc3.
MH KBD Split.zip
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KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:57 am

And here's a simple bass and lead patch where the keyboard split is between G3 and A#3.
MH Bass+Lead Split at G3.zip
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KVRist
37 posts since 20 Sep, 2010 from Paris

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:00 am

Merci beaucoup,
Cela fonctionne pour la voix 1 et seules les notes de C0 à D0 fonctionne (malheureusement c'est progressif).
Mais pas pour la voix 2 que l'on entend à partir de C0, hors je voudrais qu'elle commence par exemple à E0.
Ci-joint, mon B3
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KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 am

For a split at E0 I would try a 32 slot wavetable where the first seven slots are 1 and the rest are -1. You can manually enter these values and then copy/paste to the relevant slots.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 am

An even quicker way is to create 32 WT slots and type in the formula 0*y-1. This will set all slots to -1. You can then manually change slots 1-to-7 to +1.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:22 am

Even better is a general formula!

Set the number of wavetable slots, e.g., 32 or 64 etc. and type in the following formula where n is the MIDI note that you would like the split to occur at:

sgn((n+7)/128-y) (for a MIDI note scale of 1-128, use 127 if using 0-127)

Et voilà!

Edit: I just noticed that n has to have an offset of +7 for this to work in DUNE3. Not sure why!
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£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

KVRist
37 posts since 20 Sep, 2010 from Paris

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:51 am

J'ai créé la wavetable à 32 entrées, mais je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé.
Je n'ai pas encore bien compris le fonctionnement mais si je prends votre wavetable à 8 entrées et que je set les 4 premiers à +1
La voix 1 va de C0 à D2 et la voix 2 débute à E2 ... bon résultat.
Mais sur la voix 1, si je joue 2 notes, le son est affreux !

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:07 am

You might have to increase the oscillator pitch for voice 1 as I have done with your original patch. I've changed voice 1 to a bass sound with a split at E0.

I haven't included the wavetables from the original patch. Note that I'm using Amp Level here instead of Osc1 level as you have different Osc1 and 3 levels for each of your voices.
OrgueB3+Bass.zip
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£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

KVRist
37 posts since 20 Sep, 2010 from Paris

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:14 am

J'ai utilisé la formule en créant une wavetable de 32 entrées.
Je présume que y correspond à 32 ?
Essai de split à la 10ème note
j'ai entré sgn((10+7)/128-32)
Cela donne 1ère entrée = 1, 2ème à 31ème entrée = 0, 32ème entrée = -1
J'ai du raté quelque chose ?
Edit ... suis je bête ?
j'ai corrigé en tapant sgn((10+7)/128-y)
Cela donne 1-5 = 1, 2-32 = 0

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:21 am

Replace 32 with y. y increases in value from 0-to-1 as the WT slot increases.

Also, I'm not sure about the 7 after all. The offset seems to be different depending on the octave you're in. You'll need to experiment with that value until it's where you want it.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:28 am

You'll get more accurate results if you use a 128 slot wavetable. The only reason I suggested 32 originally was because I was manually changing WT slot values. Now that there is a formula that works close enough there's no need to limit yourself.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

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