Studio One 5 MPE Support

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KVRAF
1813 posts since 8 Jun, 2010
Roger Linn Design

Post Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:28 am

That's interesting because MPE requires no capability with any VST or AU format. It requires only to pass all 16 MIDI channels to the plug-in instrument. It appears that Presonus doesn't understand what MPE is.

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KVRAF
6043 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:40 am

They might think: Why simple if you can have it complicated?

KVRian
941 posts since 2 Apr, 2015

Post Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:52 am

A common problem with computers.

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KVRAF
32655 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:53 am

Ah well at least this means I can put off upgrading

KVRer
5 posts since 20 Apr, 2020

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:18 am

Roger_Linn wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:28 am
That's interesting because MPE requires no capability with any VST or AU format. It requires only to pass all 16 MIDI channels to the plug-in instrument. It appears that Presonus doesn't understand what MPE is.
Perhaps this would be a good opportunity to reach out and educate them what MPE is. The fact that they are even attempting to implement a technology that caters to a relatively small percentage of users is a positive thing in my opinion. Wider adoption of MPE is only going to benefit your company.

I personally am thrilled they have added it, even if it's not perfect yet. Studio One has been my primary DAW for about 5 years now and one of the things I like about it is the company's consideration of user feedback. If there is some change needed to make their implementation of MPE better, submit a request on their feature request forum. If it gets enough votes from other users, they WILL make the change/addition. I'm pretty sure this is how MPE even made it to the update first place, due to the amount of people requesting it.

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KVRAF
1813 posts since 8 Jun, 2010
Roger Linn Design

Post Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:21 am

Unfortunately my time is too limited to contact all the music software developers in an attempt to convince them of the importance of adding or correctly adding MPE. You’re welcome to tell them to read a page on my site called “How to add MPE”, accessed from the LinnStrument Support page.

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KVRAF
32655 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:04 pm

Is MPE working properly in Studio One 5 yet?

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KVRAF
32655 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:00 pm

Guess not :(

KVRer
9 posts since 20 Mar, 2017

Post Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:39 am

It’s still the same in 5.1.1 and I can confirm it only works on VST2 and not AU or VST3 plug-ins. It’s so much worse than bitwig’s implementation.

My suggestion is not to waste your time on it if you have logic or bitwig available. Even if you use studio one for mixing and at mixing stage decide you want to add an mpe part, it’s easier just to go back to bitwig, add the part, export audio, then import in S1

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KVRAF
32655 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:32 am

What I pity - I suppose I should be thankful for them charging too much for the upgrade in the BF sales, it meant I held off till another time.

KVRer
2 posts since 23 Jul, 2021

Post Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:32 am

Guys, I am getting a Linnstrument for my studio, and I'm a Studio One user. After reading all of your posts (thank you), I found some info on Studio One updates regarding MPE support.

StudioOne 5.3 - MPE Support for VST3!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrp0Effc9_k&t=9s

Looks like finally MPE VST3 instruments are supported. Would any of you guys check it out and let us know how good it works? I would gladly lend one of my unused Studio One / Sphere activations if you need to. As some of you stated, the guys at Presonus really listen to user's feedback!

I'm looking forward to being part of the Linnstrument family!

Cheers!

KVRist
112 posts since 30 Jan, 2010

Post Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:37 pm

It is not very useful to have the pitch of each note in an automation lane separated from the note itself, and also the pitch bend data is not shown as pitch so you don't know exactly where it is going, to edit that must be a nightmare...
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KVRer
9 posts since 20 Mar, 2017

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:42 am

I've used it a few times since they updated to support MPE with VST3s. It does work with the (10 or so) VST3s I tried and I didn't spot any technical issues. The user experience working in Bitwig is quite a lot better, because in Bitwig the UI shows all the pitch bends attached to all the notes, whereas Studio One just shows it as a load of automation lanes all stacked on top of each other. I'd say S1 is good enough to add a VST3 MPE part to a track when I'm at the mixing stage to save time, but for everyday composing/recording/production with MPE instruments Bitwig is still better.

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