Is Groove Agent SE that comes with some versions of Cubase, available for use with other DAWs once installed?

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KVRian
1377 posts since 12 Oct, 2012

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:41 am

Hi,

I see that Groove Agent SE is included for example with Cubase AI, does that mean that after installation, i will also be able to use Groove Agent SE in other DAWs? Is it supplied in the form of a standard VST like Halion SE is?

https://steinberg.help/cubase_plugin_re ... _se_r.html

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KVRian
1368 posts since 22 Sep, 2016

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:03 am

As far as my experience goes - only a few synth plugins of Cubase Pro are available in Bitwig on Windows ... I cannot speak for other DAWs or other Versions of Cubase.
I have tried to point Bitwig to some of the cubase ".vst3" files which seem to be "multiple vst3 plugin in one file" files, but the plugins won't load. I think Padshop and Retrologue worked from what I remember. I wanted to use the "frequency" Eq, but wasn't successful, as with man others.
Again - want to share my personal experience and can't generalize for every DAW/OS.

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KVRAF
7408 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:08 am

No it isn't! It would be so great if it is!
Others are available like Padshop, Retrologue and Halion Sonic SE.
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Mostly: Bitwig Studio 4, Cubase Pro 11, Live 11 Standard, RP Explorer 6, NI K12, Arturia VC7 + SQ80 V, Keylab 49 MK ii, MODX 6, KK M32 and ATOM on both M1 Air MacBook and Ryzen 5800X PC

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KVRian

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1377 posts since 12 Oct, 2012

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:18 am

i see,
This is kinda misleading because Steinberg call it a VST, which for the end customer implies that it is a plugin in a universal format.

KVRist
66 posts since 24 Jul, 2006

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:06 am

IIRC you CAN use it with others, but you need to download the separate 'Groove Agent 5 SE' installer from the steinberg download assistant, and the license on your elicenser will work fine with it.

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KVRian

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1377 posts since 12 Oct, 2012

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:21 am

NikkiA wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:06 am
IIRC you CAN use it with others, but you need to download the separate 'Groove Agent 5 SE' installer from the steinberg download assistant, and the license on your elicenser will work fine with it.
Wow! It actually works! that's amazing. The best thing is that it was actually included with my copy of LE. I know it lacks many of the full version's features, but for someone who doesn't have any other "serious" drum plugin, SE is a great one.

Thank you NikkiA :phones: :tu:

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KVRAF
7408 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:47 pm

NikkiA wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:06 am
IIRC you CAN use it with others, but you need to download the separate 'Groove Agent 5 SE' installer from the steinberg download assistant, and the license on your elicenser will work fine with it.
Oh Wow! Thanks a lot! I purchased two drums vsti because I couldn't figure how to make GA5SE to run on other DAWs. Now, after installing (or re-installing) GA SE from installer, it appears on other DAWs!!!
:tu:
Mostly: Bitwig Studio 4, Cubase Pro 11, Live 11 Standard, RP Explorer 6, NI K12, Arturia VC7 + SQ80 V, Keylab 49 MK ii, MODX 6, KK M32 and ATOM on both M1 Air MacBook and Ryzen 5800X PC

KVRAF
29243 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:53 pm

Nice. I have a Cubase AI license, so, that should work here as well. :) I always liked Groove Agent SE.

Actually, I'm so excited that I have to immediately try that. :lol:
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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KVRian

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1377 posts since 12 Oct, 2012

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:01 pm

Discovering this saved me some good money, as i was in the market for a drum plugin, but now i dont need to buy any. Played a bit with Groove Agent SE now and it probably has more features than I'll ever use, and a pretty good 6.2GB content package.
Cant believe i bought a bundle of Retrologue 2 and Cubase LE (+ Groove Agent) for $10, as i was about to shell out ~$100 on a drum plugin alone :D

KVRer
4 posts since 17 Jul, 2021

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:12 pm

Groove Agent can be used in other DAWs but SE edition can't

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KVRian

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1377 posts since 12 Oct, 2012

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:17 pm

tcbbbb wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:12 pm
Groove Agent can be used in other DAWs but SE edition can't
That's what we thought, but here i am using SE in Mixcraft and Bitwig :)

KVRAF
29243 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:41 pm

Yep. Works nicely in Studio One too. Dunno if it was necessary, but, in the installer I downloaded from Steinberg Download Assistant, I activated the "Install standalone", when I updated Groove Agent SE (still have Cubase AI installed, so, it only updated Groove Agent SE).

Thanks for the tip, I always wished I could use Groove Agent SE in other DAW's. :tu:
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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KVRAF
7408 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:18 pm

Yes indeed! A great discovery (and help from NikkiA) :) NikkiA for President :tu:
Mostly: Bitwig Studio 4, Cubase Pro 11, Live 11 Standard, RP Explorer 6, NI K12, Arturia VC7 + SQ80 V, Keylab 49 MK ii, MODX 6, KK M32 and ATOM on both M1 Air MacBook and Ryzen 5800X PC

KVRer
4 posts since 17 Jul, 2021

Post Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:44 pm

steinberg just released a groove agent se update and provides AU and AAX format! 😱

KVRAF
29243 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:37 pm

chk071 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:41 pm
Yep. Works nicely in Studio One too. Dunno if it was necessary, but, in the installer I downloaded from Steinberg Download Assistant, I activated the "Install standalone", when I updated Groove Agent SE (still have Cubase AI installed, so, it only updated Groove Agent SE).
Little addition: The option to install the standalone in the installer is just that... an option to install the standalone. It has nothing to do with the general installation of the VST3. That one is installed anyway.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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