How are you using Reason?

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How you use Reason?

Only as a DAW
14
16%
Sometimes the DAW, sometimes the Reason Rack Plugin
30
35%
Only as Reason Rack Plugin in some other DAW
41
48%
 
Total votes: 85

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KVRAF

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9955 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:22 am

MuzikFreq wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:35 pm
made a small section of a track in both using exact same parameter and presets
Reason DAW sat around 20-23% cpu usage and ableton was around 12-15% Bitwig was odd and sat 30-40% and Studio One at 20%
I think I know why Bitwig ran high and that's due to UI rendering being on the CPU... They REALLY NEEEED TO FIX THAT :ud:
Interesting & quite surprising! I guess I'll have to do my own test now :D
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KVRist
97 posts since 7 Aug, 2011

Post Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:02 pm

you guys realize different daws show cpu usage in different ways right? realistic cpu usage is probably much closer than that

KVRAF
3127 posts since 27 Jul, 2004

Post Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:15 pm

There is just one way to "properly" test the performance (even if this test is more or less nonsense):

How many instances of plugins I can run before getting buffer underruns... all CPU percentages can give a little hint but at the very end they aren´t telling anything meanful
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KVRian
1092 posts since 6 Mar, 2004

Post Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:57 pm

There are options missing from the OP question!

I use Reason as a desktop app, but use ReaRoute to route audio into REAPER which is my main DAW. I just use Reason as my REAPER synth rack. What benefit does this have to using Reason as a VST plugin, you ask?

Well, for one thing you don't have to constantly open and close multiple plugin windows, I just alt-tab to Reason and all my synth/instrument stuff is there, which also lets my brain just be in "synth space" when I'm there. When I switch back to REAPER I render things to audio very quickly and my brain goes to "arrangement space", for which REAPER is a crazy good tool. The workflow is less mixed up like this IMO.

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KVRAF

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9955 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:03 am

Liero wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:57 pm
There are options missing from the OP question!
No, there are not. Considering the purpose of this poll, you're using Reason for its Rack only, just not via Reason Rack Plugin, but via ReaRoute :)
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KVRer
2 posts since 10 Feb, 2021

Post Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:06 pm

Will we see more RRP users subscribing monthly. Is that a thing yet?

KVRist
67 posts since 22 Nov, 2020

Post Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:54 pm

I use it as a plugin these days and before it was a plugin, Rewire.

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KVRAF

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9955 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:34 pm

As a side note, I've installed Reason+ yesterday and almost fell of my chair when one the the 1st question Companion asked of me was "where you're planning to use Reason" followed by list of popular DAWs...

Not "...Rack"!
Not even "...Reason Rack Plugin"!
Just "...Reason"!!!

If there's anything that makes me doubt the future of Reason DAW, it's when they pull off shit like this :( :tantrum:

Sure, the 1st on the list was ...Reason, so I chose that I'll use Reason in Reason I guess? :shrug:
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KVRAF

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9955 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:48 pm

zolt wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:06 pm
Will we see more RRP users subscribing monthly. Is that a thing yet?
Not necessarily. I think the novelty of Reason Rack Plugin as a Kontakt/Reaktor/VCV type of thing will wear off quickly. Lots of people got v11 just to access their long unused Reason devices & 3rd party REs or to be finally able to move to other DAWs and take their toys with them. And some will upgrade to v12 to have the high-res & scaling features.

But I don't see a lot of people actively subscribing to R+ to use the Rack in other DAWs, unless there's constant stream of new devices and - for a lot of us this is the crucial point! - unless the DAW is being developed.

I debated this for quite some time, but I sold my v11 license and started the 3 months / $3 sub to see what it's like, but my plan is to rather sub it for a 1-2 months couple times a year to make a project in Reason DAW (I don't really plan on using Rack elsewhere) and then pause between that, to work in Bitwig, Live or whatever.

^^^ that's probably the most they can count on (from me, at least), unless they turn around the ship on the DAW and really push it forward.
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KVRian
551 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma

Post Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:52 pm

i dont. not even as rack. i simply can not read shit on my approx. half a meter in front of me positioned screens.

well, to be exact, i open reason, update it, close it and sigh. thats how i use it.

KVRian
715 posts since 17 Oct, 2018

Post Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:09 pm

I use Reason to open (at this point) almost two decades old projects. I don't ever use it for anything else. I haven't done anything new in Reason since 2007. I play around with the new stuff but I mostly keep upgrading it for legacy purposes.
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KVRAF
4366 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:47 pm

Liero wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:57 pm
There are options missing from the OP question!

I use Reason as a desktop app, but use ReaRoute to route audio into REAPER which is my main DAW. I just use Reason as my REAPER synth rack. What benefit does this have to using Reason as a VST plugin, you ask?

Well, for one thing you don't have to constantly open and close multiple plugin windows, I just alt-tab to Reason and all my synth/instrument stuff is there, which also lets my brain just be in "synth space" when I'm there. When I switch back to REAPER I render things to audio very quickly and my brain goes to "arrangement space", for which REAPER is a crazy good tool. The workflow is less mixed up like this IMO.
That's why rewire was so good .
I never used reason's sequencer , all sequencing was done in renoise ,automation also ( reasons instruments accepts midi cc's ) , every instrument piped into it's own mixer in renoise .
As you said , reason was a synth rack
Can't believe they ditched rewire
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KVRist
389 posts since 29 Apr, 2019

Post Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:48 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:47 pm
Liero wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:57 pm
There are options missing from the OP question!

I use Reason as a desktop app, but use ReaRoute to route audio into REAPER which is my main DAW. I just use Reason as my REAPER synth rack. What benefit does this have to using Reason as a VST plugin, you ask?

Well, for one thing you don't have to constantly open and close multiple plugin windows, I just alt-tab to Reason and all my synth/instrument stuff is there, which also lets my brain just be in "synth space" when I'm there. When I switch back to REAPER I render things to audio very quickly and my brain goes to "arrangement space", for which REAPER is a crazy good tool. The workflow is less mixed up like this IMO.
That's why rewire was so good .
I never used reason's sequencer , all sequencing was done in renoise ,automation also ( reasons instruments accepts midi cc's ) , every instrument piped into it's own mixer in renoise .
As you said , reason was a synth rack
Can't believe they ditched rewire
Technically they didn't.
I think you can set up a midi device then route the mixer and stream the outputs into individual channels. Though I could be wrong. Just a theory while I'm at work

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KVRAF

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9955 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:46 pm

anttimaatteri wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:52 pm
i dont. not even as rack. i simply can not read shit on my approx. half a meter in front of me positioned screens.

Reason 12 should fix that for you:

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KVRAF
2844 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:41 am

Liero wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:57 pm
There are options missing from the OP question!

I use Reason as a desktop app, but use ReaRoute to route audio into REAPER which is my main DAW. I just use Reason as my REAPER synth rack. What benefit does this have to using Reason as a VST plugin, you ask?

Well, for one thing you don't have to constantly open and close multiple plugin windows, I just alt-tab to Reason and all my synth/instrument stuff is there, which also lets my brain just be in "synth space" when I'm there. When I switch back to REAPER I render things to audio very quickly and my brain goes to "arrangement space", for which REAPER is a crazy good tool. The workflow is less mixed up like this IMO.
What do you use to sync the sequencers, Ableton sync?
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