Can I EQ some reverb send effect on (only) one track in Cubase?

[juno987654321]

This is another quick and rather special question about how to use Cubase effectively.
I couldn't find any useful and well explained information on this so I pose the question here.

Say I have multiple tracks and I wanted to use the same basic reverb on all of them.
OK, then I should have an FX channel with a reverb as an insert effect on it and then I can just send the signals from all my tracks to it and put more or less reverb on each.
So far so good.

But now, what if I wanted only ONE of these tracks to also get less low end of the basic reverb effect from the FX channel I send it to? Would this be possible?
Can I edit just the send effect for this one track somehow further or would I then have to use reverb as an insert effect for this one track?

[jancivil]

The easier way to look at this is to EQ the channel sent; the reverb isn't coming back to that channel, it's discrete from it/the 'return' of it is a single object. IE: the reverb is only able to get out to the master bus, but more than one return is simply that many instances of the reverb.

Your other options is to automate EQ in the reverb, ie., a room EQ which cuts bass as you need it to from that channel. Or just set a room EQ if that's part of the reverb's feature set which cuts bass a certain way, a certain "Q" etc expecting too much bass from source. Or an EQ in front of that reverb on its channel. It's not at all unusual to have the reverb with some cuts in bass areas.

For it to be seperately dealt with you're going to have more than one instantiation.
Even in the old studio ways, there aren't multiple returns of one object; there would be _a_ return channel, which in Cubase is the volume of the channel you've placed the 'verb as insert. The stereo FX channel dead-ends here, it has one potential out, the master bus.

[Old Nick]

Maybe create a group track with an appropriate eq, send your special track to this group instead of the reverb, then send the group to the reverb.

[NAD]

Not sure how you would go about doing this in Cubase, but send the one track to a channel with EQ and then send that channel to the reverb. Make sure the channel with the EQ is only sending to the reverb and not to the master.

[Ploki]

What i do with reverb sends is usually i duplicate the track, disable the output of the track, and process it separately for the send. If it's only 100% wet reverbs and delays phase coherence is not important, it can make the reverbs/delays detached from the main track, sometimes that's not a bad thing.

[jancivil]

a parallel EQ'd aux sending in the too-bassy track's place is not meeting the original goalpost and there are other sound design issues created by it, is why I eschewed bringing that in

[dellboy]

Can I edit just the send effect for this one track somehow further or would I then have to use reverb as an insert effect for this one track?

The easy way is just to use an insert on this one special track. Which raises the question as to why you do not want to go that route ?

Is it a limitation of the Cubase DAW version you are using ? Maybe you only have Cubase Elements ?

Or is it a limitation of the computer you are using in that it lacks the power to process many FX at the same time ?

[antic604]

Can I edit just the send effect for this one track somehow further or would I then have to use reverb as an insert effect for this one track?

The easy way is just to use an insert on this one special track. Which raises the question as to why you do not want to go that route ?

Insert will also cut the bass from the main sound and - as far as I understand - OP wants to cut the bass out only from the sound that's sent to reverb. In light of Cubase lacking any sort of containers like Racks or Layers nor splitters like Multiband-FX3 (in Bitwig) or Splitter (in Studio One), there's no easy way to do it on a single track

[pdxindy]

The easy way is just to use an insert on this one special track. Which raises the question as to why you do not want to go that route ?

Insert will also cut the bass from the main sound and - as far as I understand - OP wants to cut the bass out only from the sound that's sent to reverb.

When I read dellboy's post, I thought he meant adding an insert reverb to that individual track.

[antic604]

When I read dellboy's post, I thought he meant adding an insert reverb to that individual track.

That wouldn't make much sense if you already have a parallel track and have the reverb on send that's used by other sounds. Or maybe I'm reading it wrong...

I don't think you can send a bassless version of SINGLE track to a reverb send in most DAWs. You can in Bitwig, but probably not in Live and definitely not in Studio One or Reason (using standard routing). In all of them you can split the signal still on single track, remove bass and use reverb as insert, which you can't do in Cubase - but that wasn't the OP's question.

[Unaspected]

Already answered by Old Nick and NAD: Insert a channel between instruments and reverb buss.

Only extension to this is if the EQ introduces latency and you need to solve this manually: Then you set up a second channel in parallel with the EQ (between the instrument channels and their buss destination); add compensating latency here and send all other channels through this. Both EQ and latency compensation channels will want to be set to unity gain.

Obviously, this will add latency to the reverb channel in parallel with other group busses and they will also require the EQ's latency to be added so that all group busses and buss FX hit the master in sync.

[pdxindy]

Of course you can just use an EQ that does not introduce latency. We are just talking about some bass rolloff here and going into a reverb. It is really simple.

[Unaspected]

Absolutely.

[antic604]

Already answered by Old Nick and NAD: Insert a channel between instruments and reverb buss...

Not sure why you're closing the discussion? The question's been posted in DAW forum - not Cubase forum - so I guess it's only beneficial to learn what you can do in other DAWs? At least I'm curious to know.

[jancivil]

Cubase will allow for an FX bus to output to the Master, or another FX bus. so it can go out to an EQ bus and maybe cut bass where bass happens via automation, but if bass is always happening you have a basic sound design question.
For realistic room we use a room EQ and a low shelf and maybe a 'peak' type cut. This may have naught to do with that.

if you like the idea of a parallel effected bus in addition to the original you may like to handle that and automate.
it's twice the signal. the clean method - and one may venture to say the normative - is separate inserts for that case.
but in terms of cogent sound design, be cognizant of the problem of bass in a reverb, or a room or what-have-you; the question is may I eat my cake and have it too basically... but the extent of these phenomena as a problem for what you want to do is subjective, aesthetic.