KVR Audio

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:59 am

Hey!

Is there any app like "WaveMp3" but working with lossless compression?

In other words, for non WaveMp3 users:

Is there any app that can compress a wav with a lossless codec AND retain it's .wav extension?

It could do miracles to my sample library which never stop growing.

TIA.

Brickhead · Post by **Brickhead** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:28 am

I tried this some time ago, it has both lossy and lossless modes:

http://www.softsound.com/Shorten.html

Brickhead · Post by **Brickhead** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:30 am

SPYRO wrote:Hey!

Is there any app that can compress a wav with a lossless codec AND retain it's .wav extension?

TIA.

Ah, sorry, didn't notice that you wrote this......

projectdan · Post by **projectdan** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:32 am

There are 2 losless audio specific compression formats that I know of. Unless your audio editor/sampler can read the format you will need to convert back to Wav for use though.I dont see how it can retain Wav extension, if it is compressed then it isnt part of the Wav format standard so would need another extension.

F.L.A.C which is an opensource format.

Monkeyaudio which isnt opensource, though you can use the compression for free in many convertor programs.

I found there wasnt much difference in the amounts they compressed by so went for F.L.A.C. On standard compression it compresses to about half size.Higher settings take longer to compress and there wasnt that much difference in file size for me, so I stick with medium compression.

dbpoweramp have a convertor prog (free), and is the one I use.

jack [psychicmodulation] · Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:27 am

I use Monkey's Audio alot, it compresses wav's by half, without losing any quality.
Hope this helps.

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:33 am

May not be exactly what you were asking for, but i have just switched to tracktion and when i'm sure i want to use it exclusively, i'll convert my whole sample library to .OGG format. OGG is great and open source, too. But not lossless.

WinRAR can be configured to compress Audio. I compressed a package of 900 very short drum oneshots to about 25mb

Original size was about 100mb

whiteboycomputernoise · Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:46 am

Lossless compression like that would have been used EVERYWHERE if you could do that. Why make a file take up twice the room? lol. My suggestion is to get a USB 2.0 external hard drive. They are cheap as crap, and if you get the USB 2.0 ones, they install so easy a monkey could do it. The MAxtor one touch drives have liquid cooling, so they are fanless and pretty much silent. I have 120 GB external Hard drive from maxtor and it hold literally thousands of samples, and it didn't cost that much. Also, another trick i use is to use your old hard drives for external storage. Go to comp usa and buy the compusa brand external chassis for your old hard drives and it will convert them into an external usb 2.0 drive. I did that with 4 drives and now have an extra 400 gbs or storage for audio. The cases themselves costed me 40 bucks each and they work well, although not as silent as the maxtor ones. Ohter than that, lossless compression is only used easily by Itunes so far. Windows media audio has it's own lossless compression, but no mp3 players support it, which sucks ass. Everyone knows that there is hundreds of freeware and shareware compression programs that have their own algorithms since computer programming is such a popular college major, but the programs to use the lossless compression formats are not that well integrated into the computer world, and probably not easily used in samplers just yet. Usually samplers like to have their own proprietary compression formats so they can make money and if they used a codec such as "apple lossless compression" codec then they would owe apple assloads of money. If you have really figured out a way to cut all .wav files on earth in half without loosing sound quality or ease of use, then please tell us how because my life would change.

C00kie · Post by **C00kie** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:50 am

Alternatively, turn on compression on the folders so Windows will handle the (un)compression for you. Right-click on the folder, select Properties, select Advanced. Tick compression (also for sub-folders) and sit back while it compresses it.

It will take a bit more CPU time accessing the files, it will save you some space but not as much as winzip/winrar would. Where winzip/winrar might get you a ratio of 1/10, a compressed folder will give you only 1/2.

scuzzphut · Post by **scuzzphut** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:15 am

xraydelta1 wrote:Lossless compression like that would have been used EVERYWHERE if you could do that. Why make a file take up twice the room? lol.

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If you have really figured out a way to cut all .wav files on earth in half without loosing sound quality or ease of use, then please tell us how because my life would change.

http://flac.sourceforge.net/features.html

do a bit of reading

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:50 am

A good free program that can translate between many audio formats, including many lossless ones, is CDex:

http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/

Lossless compressed wavs