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seikinomori · Post by **seikinomori** » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:12 am

Please evaluate how accurately the synergy between the chords was captured. Describes the mood of the chord being played at the moment it is being played, given the preceding one.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:10 pm

That sounds like a homework assignment...

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:59 pm

"the mood of" will be subjective to the audient.
<the accuracy of a description of "synergy" between two chords> is an exercise in bullshitting

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:00 pm

It's in the range between 2.7x and x/y*4z-n.

TribeOfHǫfuð · Post by **TribeOfHǫfuð** » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:13 pm

I gave each of them a score on a 10 point scale, but these relations were so perfect that they broke the scale. Fantastic that so many emotional synergies can be captured with such a trivial progression. I cheered, cried, feared, raved, raged, jumped and screamed in excitement. 100 points on a 10 point scale from me. Amazing. Keep up the good work

and for heaven´s sake, write a book, please

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:31 pm

sometimes two chords is not more than the sum of parts

(two chords, absent a musical thought or line or flow, or idea, is not really anything to discuss like that. C to F: is this I-IV or V-I, or what? What is the voicing? is there melody? etc)

TribeOfHǫfuð · Post by **TribeOfHǫfuð** » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:23 pm

Come on. Who need melodies when you got synergies? New term added to the nomenclatura of music theory. Brilliant

shawshawraw · Post by **shawshawraw** » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:26 pm

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:50 pm

TribeOfHǫfuð wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:23 pm Come on. Who need melodies when you got synergies? New term added to the nomenclatura of music theory. Brilliant

another first post spectacular

TribeOfHǫfuð · Post by **TribeOfHǫfuð** » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:42 pm

jancivil wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:50 pm another first post spectacular

Considering the theoretical level displayed of this and other debutants, I know a brand new pinned thread in this forum where they could be stashed. Including music theory conspiration rants. In time we could have one heck of alternative theory collection. A kind of HPC in the music theory forum

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:40 pm

this place attracts 'em, they need a lane isn't it

seikinomori · Post by **seikinomori** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:15 am

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Damn, it's funny how many people are here. About "sum of parts" Let's give a simple example, Am to Cm or just m iii m, doesn't it sound ominous? Cut a piece of video with an example you can see below
https://www.hashcut.com/v/xNg75RJ (https://www.hashcut.com/v/xNg75RJ)
I don't deny that melody is important too, and in general this whole topic is subjective, but look me in the face and tell me why, a borrowed chord, on the left side of the circle, sounds gloomy, not because of the distance between them?

seikinomori · Post by **seikinomori** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:30 am

jancivil wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:31 pm sometimes two chords is not more than the sum of parts

(two chords, absent a musical thought or line or flow, or idea, is not really anything to discuss like that. C to F: is this I-IV or V-I, or what? What is the voicing? is there melody? etc)

Nothing complicated, if you play a C chord and then a F chord, the interval between them is Perfect 4th "IV", that is M IV M, which sounds just fine. The opposite situation is first the F chord and then the C chord, the interval here Perfect 5th "V" M V M also sounds good. Without saying that it is a subdominant in C major , or vice versa a dominant in F major or even a side dominant.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:45 am

seikinomori wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:30 am
jancivil wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:31 pm sometimes two chords is not more than the sum of parts

(two chords, absent a musical thought or line or flow, or idea, is not really anything to discuss like that. C to F: is this I-IV or V-I, or what? What is the voicing? is there melody? etc)
Nothing complicated, if you play a C chord and then a F chord, the interval between them is Perfect 4th "IV", that is M IV M, which sounds just fine. The opposite situation is first the F chord and then the C chord, the interval here Perfect 5th "V" M V M also sounds good. Without saying that it is a subdominant in C major , or vice versa a dominant in F major or even a side dominant.

And WTF does that mattter? That's Theory 101 - that's the very, very basics of Harmony (a concept I rarely see mentioned here, BTW - people keep talking about "chord progressions" but rareley, if anytime, do I see the word HARMONY).

Music may be regarded in three main aspects (there are more, but these are the fundamental ones): Melody, Harmony, and Rhythm. Each of them has a role, but concentrating in just one of them is failing to see the whole picture.

TribeOfHǫfuð · Post by **TribeOfHǫfuð** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:08 am

Do not know if it is even 101. To that end, there would at least need to be comprehension that terms like dominant and subdominant are not relative, but related to a tonic and musical context. There is no such musical discipline as to determining the moods of isolated chord progressions by terms like synergies. That is subjective and left to the listener to decide. Further, what might be deeply sad to one, may just be nostalgic to others. Not even the old prejudice minor = sad, major = happy holds water in this regard. You can write happy or sad songs in both modes. To me, there were no moods in any example. Seems like a basic misunderstanding of the terms and purposes of music theory.

This is 100% homemade pseudo-objective theory, and question is whether this forum should be dumping ground for such Youtube spam. Soon we would have other great ideas, like the music theory conspiracy raid

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