Reason 12 announced

[FapFilter]

it simply depends on the person
some always desperately “need“ this or that certain feature for his DAW to be finally great and complete, while others are already more than happy with features from 10 year old previous versions

[dellboy]

Anybody want to point me towards a DAW that is 'finished' and doesn't need any future additional features or improvements?

"Need" implies the DAW does not function without the "needed" feature.

I think you should use the word "want" instead. And in this modern age peoples "wants" seem to be limitless. And the capitalist world is happy to feed peoples wants.

[Eclectrophonic]

Anybody want to point me towards a DAW that is 'finished' and doesn't need any future additional features or improvements?

Not sure which direction I'm to point you but Logic has pretty much everything I can think of, not to mention a great looking gui. It's only let down is it's Mac only.

[dellboy]

Not sure which direction I'm to point you but Logic has pretty much everything I can think of, not to mention a great looking gui. It's only let down is it's Mac only.

Has it now got proper drag-n-drop ?

[WatchTheGuitar]

Anybody want to point me towards a DAW that is 'finished' and doesn't need any future additional features or improvements?

Not sure which direction I'm to point you but Logic has pretty much everything I can think of, not to mention a great looking gui. It's only let down is it's Mac only.

He even says PC in his signature ffs

[apoclypse]

Not sure which direction I'm to point you but Logic has pretty much everything I can think of, not to mention a great looking gui. It's only let down is it's Mac only.

Has it now got proper drag-n-drop ?

Does it matter? Will drag and drop really change your mind about the DAW if you have issues with it? The fact that Logic is literally the best bang for buck DAW in the market isn’t enough?

I find that people who make excuses will always make excuses no matter how good the product is.

[bangaio]

Proper drag and drop? Well I can drag and drop from finder and/or the logic browser. Is that what you mean?

Logic for me has to be the most complete full featured out there.

[dellboy]

Proper drag and drop? Well I can drag and drop from finder and/or the logic browser. Is that what you mean?

No, I owned a Mac Mini this time last year and was surprised that it did not have drag-n-drop for instruments like most DAWs do. It didn't bother me after a while, no big deal, it was just odd that it was not yet implemented. But I thought that it was a great DAW and I could happily use it.The only reason I sold my new Mac Mini was because I bought it just before they announced the change to arm and thought it was best to sell it. I would quite happily use a new M1 Mac.

[SLiC]

He he, my question was trying to prove a point that no DAW is perfect and they all need something, I didn't expect people to actually point me towards a perfect DAW My workhouse 'DAW is actually Studio One as I have a small studio and (pre-covid!) use to record local bands etc...I love S1 for that, get the job done (like multitrack tape!) but no where near as much 'fun' as Reason (or Live or Bitwig) when I am just playing around or experimenting on my own.

[antic604]

As far as I can tell they are not 'gutting' the DAW (what exactly has been removed?) in fact 11 added some pretty nifty workflow features...

I explained yesterday already - they've cut out a Mixer feature I was using and added a feature I never cared about (I avoided using combis in Reason altogether).

You still have the full DAW (with Blocks) you loved before AND the ability to use the fabulous Reason instruments and effects (and all the Re's you bought) in other DAWS with unique features (like the modulation system in Bitwig).

I never wanted that. Some people only wanted that after they've been disillusioned about Props/RS ever getting serious about updating the DAW.

Blocks seems pretty cool, but so is arrange in S1, clips in Bitwig and Live etc-- Best of All Worlds for multiple DAW users like us surely?! (I suspect the plan is to get the HD Rack fully working and integrated and then improve the DAW)

No, neither are nowhere close to Blocks. There's bits & pieces of Blocks in different DAWs (FL's patterns are probably the closest), so I can't see how that's helpful when I need those features in one place?

[EnochLight]

(I avoided using combis in Reason altogether).

You don’t use Combi in Reason.. at all??

[antic604]

(I avoided using combis in Reason altogether).

You don’t use Combi in Reason.. at all??

Unless I can't avoid them. Obviously this doesn't include insert slots in channels/master.

[festeringheap]

I explained yesterday already - they've cut out a Mixer feature I was using and added a feature I never cared about (I avoided using combis in Reason altogether).

Next they'll remove the Channel EQ and Dynamics section from the Mixer because they're already in the Rack. #useTheRack #theIncredibleShrinkingChannelStrip #letsMakeAnticFrantic

[festeringheap]

Can you left click a block and drag it around like Reaper does with regions or do you have to select from the drop down box?

Yes, you can drag a Block around by left clicking.

[antic604]

#letsMakeAnticFrantic