Any interest in an open source, tracker style, web based DAW?

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pgregory wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:35 am It's no different to building a desktop based application and taking advantage of off-the-shelf audio libraries such a FMod or OpenAL for audio processing.
But those libraries are made for games and usually have latencies of 50ms or higher. It's not like ASIO with 5ms or so.

In the case of trackers where you don't do real-time recordings it shouldn't matter that much I guess.

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pgregory wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:47 am I'd like to understand what makes it not optimal.
Sure. For reference, I took your app for a quick spin, but I did not look under the hood.
1. Web technologies are not optimal from a latency perspective, I imagine you can only use the default system audio device, etc... and web browsers were never intended for this use-case
2. For DSP programming, C is the most optimal language, C++ is a compromise on optimality, anything else is suboptimal, except maybe Fortran. (Surely you are not writing DSP code in Javascript, but I'm imagining it's not compiled C, but maybe it is)
3. Javascript is a mess (I'm sure you are using at least some of it, maybe a lot), all of the abstraction layers designed to decrapify the fundamental problems with Javascript (TypeScript, CoffeeScript, Dart, Babel, etc...) just make it worse

Like I said, I did not look under the hood. If I got it wrong, feel free to debunk :-)
pgregory wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:47 am As for back end, as it stands there are no real backend costs, the app runs entirely locally in the user's browser...
Fair enough then.
pgregory wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:47 am On your second point, I get what you're saying, and understand why that is a common way for developers to approach creating something, I prefer an alternative approach, innovating and testing. If everyone does the same thing all the time, with only minor tweaks, progress is at best slow, we only see shifts in the landscape when folks take a chance on something different, IMHO. It'll probably mean that anything I create won't get mainstream acceptance without lots of marketing and investment, but I'm happy just innovating and trying new ideas to see what sticks, and what doesn't.
Trust me brother, you and I are more alike than you realize. I'm not going to hijack your thread by discussing anything I have worked on or am working on, but suffice it to say I have been developing audio software for about 20 years and am offering that advice from experience. I dislike the audio-market-stifling-innovation situation more than anybody, but felt compelled to offer that advice just because it's good advice.

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I’m def interested. Tired of downloading DAW updates. Make sure the sampler manipulation on point doe. That’s all I need.

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Id be interested in a *super* lightweight tracker, but I'd like to have one it to feed midi to daw rather than be a vst host, which would require sync between the apps. So the web based aspect seems a little concerning for that, also with timing stability I imagine it would drift around? If the timing wasn't absolutely accurate then honestly I wouldnt use it.

Id really hope it would be developed alongside a musician tbh. one whose opinions i agree with ha

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