Phuturetone GR-8 V/A Synth (KVR Dev Challenge)

[Erisian]

the thing is a pretty picture to look at.

I can't use it. Tried to use apply envelope 1 to oscillator 1 and nothing happens because there's no obvious connection between them. Also my eye was busy looking around at the symbolic code-set and trying to reverse engineer how the routing functions, and quickly lost interest in doing that.

the little oscillator switches are fiddly and confusing to the eye.

this is an interface/instrument that seems to require specific learning and memorization tasks as to it's particular workflow. since it is not readily obvious to understand to a veteran synth tinkerer of 20 years, this means that a mental note needs to be remembered by the user in between sessions, which means that it will not likely be used as often as more obvious control interfaces.

just because it is not obvious to me doesn't mean it won't be to everyone. there's too many puff piece comments on the net, and i'm not here to tell people what they want to hear unless the software works the way i actually like. this is just one opinion, so i don't need a critique on my critique for other forum users, this is meant for the developer.

Huh!? I'm relatively new to synthesis and it's one of the easiest instruments I have ever worked with. Your post is so negative I get the impression you just woke up and wanted to jump on somebody for no real reason. A veteran synth tinkerer? Perhaps you should give up tinkering and start educating yourself in how to actually use synthesizers.

[DJErmac]

the thing is a pretty picture to look at.

I can't use it. Tried to use apply envelope 1 to oscillator 1 and nothing happens because there's no obvious connection between them. Also my eye was busy looking around at the symbolic code-set and trying to reverse engineer how the routing functions, and quickly lost interest in doing that.

the little oscillator switches are fiddly and confusing to the eye.

this is an interface/instrument that seems to require specific learning and memorization tasks as to it's particular workflow. since it is not readily obvious to understand to a veteran synth tinkerer of 20 years, this means that a mental note needs to be remembered by the user in between sessions, which means that it will not likely be used as often as more obvious control interfaces.

just because it is not obvious to me doesn't mean it won't be to everyone. there's too many puff piece comments on the net, and i'm not here to tell people what they want to hear unless the software works the way i actually like. this is just one opinion, so i don't need a critique on my critique for other forum users, this is meant for the developer.

Huh!? I'm relatively new to synthesis and it's one of the easiest instruments I have ever worked with. Your post is so negative I get the impression you just woke up and wanted to jump on somebody for no real reason. A veteran synth tinkerer? Perhaps you should give up tinkering and start educating yourself in how to actually use synthesizers.

True, but what you seem to forget is that the guy doesn’t need a critique on his critique from other forum users : this is not a forum here, this is his own private blog. You’re not allowed to answer his post. How dare you ?

[Erisian]

^^ ^^

[muki]

critique on my critique for other forum users, this is meant for the developer.

so why ( oh why) don't you write it to the developer aka sasha privately ????

[EdSfer]

Huh!? I'm relatively new to synthesis and it's one of the easiest instruments I have ever worked with. Your post is so negative I get the impression you just woke up and wanted to jump on somebody for no real reason. A veteran synth tinkerer? Perhaps you should give up tinkering and start educating yourself in how to actually use synthesizers.

Looks like the guy posted in the wrong thread as I see absolutely 0 connexion between his post, and the topic. I don't even know what "applying an Env to an OSC" means (and how do you do it? I mean, he says he tried, but how???), so he might as well have posted in the wrong forum

[muki]

I don't even know what "applying an Env to an OSC" means (and how do you do it? I mean, he

i assume he means ENV1 to Pitch which, as far as i can see (hear), works as expected
(and is imho the only way an env can be mapped to an osc...)

[muki]

and when it "does not work as expected" it might be, that
the "DESTIN" switch is set in a way he is not aware of

for example:
switch is set to osc2
but mix is set to osc1
result: he doesn't hear the env>osc effect...

call it: learning curve

[EdSfer]

I don't even know what "applying an Env to an OSC" means (and how do you do it? I mean, he

i assume he means ENV1 to Pitch which, as far as i can see (hear), works as expected
(and is imho the only way an env can be mapped to an osc...)

Makes sense! Still, very weird to blame GR-8 on being complicated, or to think that it needs "specific learning and memorization". The learning curve is non-existent if you have practiced any subtractive synth before, which he says he did.

[GaryG]

and when it "does not work as expected" it might be, that
the "DESTIN" switch is set in a way he is not aware of

for example:
switch is set to osc2
but mix is set to osc1
result: he doesn't hear the env>osc effect...

call it: learning curve

Woo that's serious synth-fu, you must have at least 21 years tinkering experience.

[muki]

Woo that's serious synth-fu, you must have at least 21 years tinkering experience.

[DJErmac]

This synth is way too complex. I tried to make granular resynthesis retrigger the 2nd LFO so it can modulate the ring modulator, and nothing happens.
Where the heck is the granular resynthesis, to start with ?
I just don’t understand this synth. I’m going skiing.

[Ploki]

i think the point of this synth is that the knobs point UP not down.
i think most synths have knobs pointing down, which is counterintuitive, since you always look at the synth bottoms up when it's on a desk- never top down

[DJErmac]

i think the point of this synth is that the knobs point UP not down.
i think most synths have knobs pointing down, which is counterintuitive, since you always look at the synth bottoms up when it's on a desk- never top down

Simply install your monitor upside down.

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[excuse me please]

Phutura synth is also great. But it's 32 bitwig.

[Saffran]

Phutura synth is also great. But it's 32 bitwig.

32 bitwig. What's that in Euro?