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Norqa wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:02 pm there is nothing unique
Things most conventoinal analog emulations don't have:

4x stereo unison
Contains also exotic oscillator types from hard-to-get analog synths
Filter with feedback and FM
FM and AM noise modulation on the waverforms for breathy and noisy sounds
Pulsewidth-modulation on all analog waveforms (not only squarewave)
Larger sonic range than competing analog emulations
Drag & Drop modulation
Very low CPU
Saurus3 will come with a new microtuning mode that automatically enhances chords
Flexible mod matrix
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Pulse width modulation on all waveforms is interesting. I should get an oscilloscope and see how that's achieved. Hopefully the saw wave is done alpha Juno style

edit: not having a true init patch is VERY, VERY annoying, for the type of person who actually uses init patches.

edit2: Oh wait, is "init digital" the true init patch? That's actually quite clever.

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Saurus is very capable of doing hoover sounds.

To init an analog patch click FILE->'init analog'
To init a patch with DCOs click 'init digital'
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Markus Krause wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:25 pm Saurus is very capable of doing hoover sounds.

To init an analog patch click FILE->'init analog'
To init a patch with DCOs click 'init digital'

The analog init is not a true init. There's cutoff, resonance, filter envelope etc enabled as well as a 2nd oscillator.

I thought this was a clever way of "spiking" the init patch to sound more polished, like other companies such as Vengeance have been doing, but still having a true init with the "digital" init patch. That seems like a clever solution to have the best of both worlds. But your comment about DCOs makes me unsure.

I'm not sure what you mean by DCO. Are you calling it a DCO when drift is set to 0? Or does the actual algorithm for the oscillator change in some way?

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Besides the Drift button being off in the Digital Init setting, the Config settings are different from the Analog Init.

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Examigan wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:46 pm Besides the Drift button being off in the Digital Init setting, the Config settings are different from the Analog Init.
I have no clue what that means.

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jasonekratz wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:35 pmThen you must be pretty shitty at your job eh? I noticed too and don't get paid to notice shit like that.
No, I am very, very good at focusing on what matters is all. Everything that goes to air has faults/problems, it's a matter of fixing what will be noticed and not worrying about the rest. And, seriously, why would you spend even five minutes in Photoshop, fixing up the decoration on an interface when you could spend that time creating a patch for the instrument instead?
Norqa wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:02 pmFrank, In a nutshell there is nothing unique, you have answered your own question.
Based on what? Have you installed and used it? Because I gotta tell you, the bottom end in this thing is definitely unique in my experience. It's massive! I think the filter feedback is also pretty unique. I'm not sure it's all that useful but it is different.
briefcasemanx wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:41 pmThe analog init is not a true init. There's cutoff, resonance, filter envelope etc enabled as well as a 2nd oscillator.
Where are the rules for making INIT patches? I'd much prefer an init patch with all the oscillators sounding, thanks, and the other settings where I can start work from. An init patch that is just an osc 1 pass-through is less than helpful in my experience.
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BONES wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:38 am
jasonekratz wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:35 pmThen you must be pretty shitty at your job eh? I noticed too and don't get paid to notice shit like that.
No, I am very, very good at focusing on what matters is all. Everything that goes to air has faults/problems, it's a matter of fixing what will be noticed and not worrying about the rest. And, seriously, why would you spend even five minutes in Photoshop, fixing up the decoration on an interface when you could spend that time creating a patch for the instrument instead?
*I* don’t care about the “wood grain” either way but I wasn’t the one who said I get paid to notice shit like that, and it is a bit janky. Why would someone spend the time? Maybe it bothers them and it’s a one-time thing. Dunno. Again I don’t give a damn personally as it sounds great. Not particularly a fan of the tone2 UIs on any of the synths but they all sound great and the UI stuff doesn’t get in the way so I don’t care. Not a knock on them at all, the UIs just aren’t my cup of tea.

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Markus this thing growls like a mofo with some drive, res, and FM on the filter. Wickedly good. Had planned on buying an Uno Synth Pro because of that growl its got but this might have just saved me a mint.

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BONES wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:38 am
jasonekratz wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:35 pmThen you must be pretty shitty at your job eh? I noticed too and don't get paid to notice shit like that.
No, I am very, very good at focusing on what matters is all. Everything that goes to air has faults/problems, it's a matter of fixing what will be noticed and not worrying about the rest. And, seriously, why would you spend even five minutes in Photoshop, fixing up the decoration on an interface when you could spend that time creating a patch for the instrument instead?.
Why would someone do anything that you wouldn't do?

You obviously aren't that great at seeing what will "be noticed", since multiple people noticed the thing you didn't and said it looked pretty bad. With your seemingly pathologic inability to understand others points of view when they deviate from your own in even the smallest way, as proven almost every day on this forum by your posts, I can just about guarantee you're not that great at your job if it has anything at all to do with UI.

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Maybe my ears are failing me, but it sounds like with the noise modulation on the oscillators is reversed, where clockwise seems to affect frequency, and counter-clockwise seems to affect amplitude.

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Looking forward to it's release. Saurus since its conception had a lush sound to my ears and been my goto for basslines for a long time ( in certain genres )
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briefcasemanx wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:41 pm I'm not sure what you mean by DCO. Are you calling it a DCO when drift is set to 0? Or does the actual algorithm for the oscillator change in some way?
DCO = digital controlled oscillator

These oscs were used by a couple of hybrid analog synths like the Roland Alpha Juno.
They got a precise tuning without drift.
Use this setting to create hoover sounds or when you need a precise attack-phase.
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briefcasemanx wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:41 pm The analog init is not a true init. There's cutoff, resonance, filter envelope etc enabled as well as a 2nd oscillator.
You can easily build your own init patch. Then save it to the templates directory. Here you can find also other init templates for sync, noise, PWM etc.
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Markus Krause wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:03 am
briefcasemanx wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:41 pm I'm not sure what you mean by DCO. Are you calling it a DCO when drift is set to 0? Or does the actual algorithm for the oscillator change in some way?
DCO = digital controlled oscillator

These oscs were used by a couple of hybrid analog synths like the Roland Alpha Juno.
They got a precise tuning without drift.
Use this setting to create hoover sounds or when you need a precise attack-phase.
I know what a DCO is, I currently own or have owned many hardware synths that employ DCOs. I was more wondering if anything changes "under the hood" that isn't user accessible when I choose digital init, or if it's only parameter changes on the UI, like setting drift to 0.

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