A gorgeous new granular delay by Audio Damage -

[bmanic]

Wow this one looks and sounds truly amazing!!! Love that "Mirage" algorithm. It's absolutely a blast to play around with.

This is quite an instant buy for me.

[Sampleconstruct]

Processing a piano improvisation with Other Desert Cities using the granular algorithm, tweaking things on the fly.

[Neon Breath]

Too bad Audio Damage support is very poor, I don't have lot of good things to say about it unfortunately. I've learned to stay away from them over the past years. Unless the plugin is truly stellar and bringing something totally new and fresh to me, no-go for me. I dislike AD

[srcodling]

I know a guy who got so frustrated that he just repurchased an AD plugin in the last couple of weeks because AD support wouldn't get back to him about getting the updated version, despite multiple emails... there seems to be an out-of-whack balance between developing cool new ideas and supporting existing products & customers...

[bmanic]

Well.. I'm glad I tried the demo first. This thing, while really good sounding, is frustratingly simplistic in it's modulation department. The visualization is also not accurately calculated in many instances.

about those simplistic LFO's

Way too simplistic. When I want to do specific things, like using the LFOs to step through different pitches in a sort of pattern. Well.. it's not really possible to get any deeper specific pitch tracking using these as there is no way to change the phase of the LFO. Nor is it possible to set them to be unipolar. They are hard-coded bipolar which is not at all good in many situations (like going for a specific pitch target up or down only.

Simply if these would give you phase and unipolar operation you could get much more complex interactions going.

There is a sort of hack if you force the pitch to it's maximum or minimum, you can then use "ceiling" as a sort of limiter which forces the LFO to become unipolar. This way you can setup the two LFOs to target specific pitches but it means you are always stuck at either the low or high end of the pitch knob (or any other knob for that matter).

This is really a shame considering how awesome the algorithms sound and how much potential they have for vast ambient spaces and experimental stuff.


It's possibly still a must buy for me but I'm afraid of getting annoyed at this plugin and then never ending up using it.

[sinkmusic]

It seems that we can't have sample & hold and/or step seq as LFO, right?

[muki]

This sounds lovely...and I still have my Focusrite AD discount code

this was quite some time ago (oct 2020?) ?
does it still work ?

[db3]

This sounds lovely...and I still have my Focusrite AD discount code

this was quite some time ago (oct 2020?) ?
does it still work ?

Yes it did for me.

[Autobot]

Well.. I'm glad I tried the demo first. This thing, while really good sounding, is frustratingly simplistic in it's modulation department. The visualization is also not accurately calculated in many instances.

about those simplistic LFO's

Way too simplistic. When I want to do specific things, like using the LFOs to step through different pitches in a sort of pattern. Well.. it's not really possible to get any deeper specific pitch tracking using these as there is no way to change the phase of the LFO. Nor is it possible to set them to be unipolar. They are hard-coded bipolar which is not at all good in many situations (like going for a specific pitch target up or down only.

Simply if these would give you phase and unipolar operation you could get much more complex interactions going.

There is a sort of hack if you force the pitch to it's maximum or minimum, you can then use "ceiling" as a sort of limiter which forces the LFO to become unipolar. This way you can setup the two LFOs to target specific pitches but it means you are always stuck at either the low or high end of the pitch knob (or any other knob for that matter).

This is really a shame considering how awesome the algorithms sound and how much potential they have for vast ambient spaces and experimental stuff.


It's possibly still a must buy for me but I'm afraid of getting annoyed at this plugin and then never ending up using it.

I like the simplicity of things although true the LFO's could be more flexible. Drop an mail to AD they may add some more features. As far as I remember they did took user consideration into updates of Quanta for example. Support is somewhat awkward works for some for others not. I'm a customer since ages and never had an problem with support.

Edit: I sent an email to AD and asked for phase offset and unipolar mode for LFOs. Let's see what comes back.

[martinjuenke]

Is it better than Output Portal?

[Neon Breath]

Is it better than Output Portal?

Very, very different but for the granulator aspect only, I find Portal way much more superior and flexible. This one is a huge delay plugin in the same vein as let's say Valhalla with different algorithms, but with a granulator (which Valhalla doesn't have).

[muki]

Yes it did for me.

cool
thanks

[Autobot]

About those simplistic LFO's

Way too simplistic. When I want to do specific things, like using the LFOs to step through different pitches in a sort of pattern. Well.. it's not really possible to get any deeper specific pitch tracking using these as there is no way to change the phase of the LFO. Nor is it possible to set them to be unipolar. They are hard-coded bipolar which is not at all good in many situations (like going for a specific pitch target up or down only.

Simply if these would give you phase and unipolar operation you could get much more complex interactions going.

There is a sort of hack if you force the pitch to it's maximum or minimum, you can then use "ceiling" as a sort of limiter which forces the LFO to become unipolar. This way you can setup the two LFOs to target specific pitches but it means you are always stuck at either the low or high end of the pitch knob (or any other knob for that matter).

This is really a shame considering how awesome the algorithms sound and how much potential they have for vast ambient spaces and experimental stuff.


It's possibly still a must buy for me but I'm afraid of getting annoyed at this plugin and then never ending up using it.

I sent an email to AD and asked for phase offset and unipolar mode for LFOs. Let's see what comes back.

I got an answer within ten minutes. support still works for me. However, according to Chris Randall the functionality of the LFOs will be extended by the next update. This one is already on the internal feature list.

[bmanic]

That is AWESOME to hear! It would be such a shame if we didn't have more control over the modulation as this thing has so much sonic finesse with it's awesome algorithms!

[Autobot]

That is AWESOME to hear! It would be such a shame if we didn't have more control over the modulation as this thing has so much sonic finesse with it's awesome algorithms!

Yes. Definitely. I'll wait some days to let the first awesome impression settle down before I buy it.
But I'm already sure I will. In fact I do not have much delays... Ubermod, MFM2, ValhallaDelay.
This fits perfect. It's complex, good sounding yet easy to use and a fresh breeze somehow...