One Synth Challenge #151: GR-8 by Phuturetone (Jasinski wins!)

[Orboscope]

It's a bit of a cpu & memory hog and likes to crash when saving patches for some reason. I disabled all the effects on the factory presets with a search and replace which helps a fair bit.

Reverb: 1358819125
Chorus: 1012248993
Distortion: 498895199
Delay: 1072946944
Phaser: 575720912
Eq: 950034005

<Param id="id" val="0" />

Thanks. where would I put these numbers in. I honestly dont quite get it.

[z.prime]

It's a bit of a cpu & memory hog and likes to crash when saving patches for some reason. I disabled all the effects on the factory presets with a search and replace which helps a fair bit.

Reverb: 1358819125
Chorus: 1012248993
Distortion: 498895199
Delay: 1072946944
Phaser: 575720912
Eq: 950034005

<Param id="id" val="0" />

Thanks. where would I put these numbers in. I honestly dont quite get it.

You have to search for something like <Param id="THE NUMBER HERE" and then set the val="0", I think is what hockinsk3 is saying. There are lots of ways to do this, but to do it in bulk, you'd probably want to use something like sed. There are probably some graphical tools to do this on windows, but sorry I can't help there.

[Orboscope]

It's a bit of a cpu & memory hog and likes to crash when saving patches for some reason. I disabled all the effects on the factory presets with a search and replace which helps a fair bit.

Reverb: 1358819125
Chorus: 1012248993
Distortion: 498895199
Delay: 1072946944
Phaser: 575720912
Eq: 950034005

<Param id="id" val="0" />

Thanks. where would I put these numbers in. I honestly dont quite get it.

You have to search for something like <Param id="THE NUMBER HERE" and then set the val="0", I think is what hockinsk3 is saying. There are lots of ways to do this, but to do it in bulk, you'd probably want to use something like sed. There are probably some graphical tools to do this on windows, but sorry I can't help there.

So its in the code of the plugin somewhere? Im afraid thats out of range of my expertise. Bu thank you anyway,

[] Peter:H []

It's a bit of a cpu & memory hog and likes to crash when saving patches for some reason. I disabled all the effects on the factory presets with a search and replace which helps a fair bit.

Reverb: 1358819125
Chorus: 1012248993
Distortion: 498895199
Delay: 1072946944
Phaser: 575720912
Eq: 950034005

<Param id="id" val="0" />

Thanks. where would I put these numbers in. I honestly dont quite get it.

You have to search for something like <Param id="THE NUMBER HERE" and then set the val="0", I think is what hockinsk3 is saying. There are lots of ways to do this, but to do it in bulk, you'd probably want to use something like sed. There are probably some graphical tools to do this on windows, but sorry I can't help there.

So its in the code of the plugin somewhere? Im afraid thats out of range of my expertise. Bu thank you anyway,

Not in the code but it's in the presets. Please go and open for instance <your users directory>\Documents\VST3 Presets\Phuturetone\GR-8\80s.vstpreset with an text editor.

You can use notepad++ for instance.

The file will look like this excerpt

Code: Select all

VST3   FEFA00E95F5C493C8BB302B8CF296B60      +  <?xml version="1.0" ?>
<Preset pluginId="67526d38" name="80s" category="Lead">
 <Param id="7594" val="0" MIDI="100663296" />
 <Param id="7866188" val="0" MIDI="33554460" />
 <Param id="22026732" val="7.25" />
 <Param id="39733783" val="0" MIDI="33554514" />
 <Param id="58755578" val="2.75" />
 <Param id="112943581" val="-5" />
 <Param id="121505233" val="6.71667" MIDI="33554548" />
 [...]

Now do a text search for instance for "1358819125"

Say you get t hit like this

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 <Param id="1358819125" val="7.25" />

then simply change the value to 0. result

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 <Param id="1358819125" val="0" />

then save.

Why I mentioned notepad++. Because I let's you do search and replace on all files in a directory.

[hockinsk3]

Sorry yes, as Peter states, do a search and replace in the preset files, to turn off the effects. Notepad++ allows a search and replace inside a directory. The ids are those for the effect on/off button, so set them all to 0 on bulk.

[phankiejankie303]

I am experiencing a problem where the synth is locked on to Mono and no matter what I do it will not go to Poly mode (the Poly button lights up but still no way to play chords as the next note chokes the previous one, which is essentially mono behavior). My DAW is Reaper, anyone else has this problem?

[hockinsk3]

If you load it into SaviHost VST does it still lock on mono?
https://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm

[hockinsk3]

Attached is the factory GR-8.zip vstpresets with all effects turned off.

[photonic]

I am experiencing a problem where the synth is locked on to Mono and no matter what I do it will not go to Poly mode (the Poly button lights up but still no way to play chords as the next note chokes the previous one, which is essentially mono behavior). My DAW is Reaper, anyone else has this problem?

I have a preset which worked in all modes. But after loading it again, only poly was working. All other modes silence. I found no way to repair this. I use Reaper too.

[hockinsk3]

If you open up the preset in a text editor you could edit the following parameter:

<Param id="1216881042" val="0" />

Change the value to 0 (mono), 1 (unison), 2 (chord), 3 (poly).

chord (-36 to +36) numbers are in :
<Param id="768660793" val="0" />
<Param id="909407938" val="12" />
<Param id="1255701942" val="-12" />

[Orboscope]

It's a bit of a cpu & memory hog and likes to crash when saving patches for some reason. I disabled all the effects on the factory presets with a search and replace which helps a fair bit.

Reverb: 1358819125
Chorus: 1012248993
Distortion: 498895199
Delay: 1072946944
Phaser: 575720912
Eq: 950034005

<Param id="id" val="0" />

Thanks. where would I put these numbers in. I honestly dont quite get it.

You have to search for something like <Param id="THE NUMBER HERE" and then set the val="0", I think is what hockinsk3 is saying. There are lots of ways to do this, but to do it in bulk, you'd probably want to use something like sed. There are probably some graphical tools to do this on windows, but sorry I can't help there.

So its in the code of the plugin somewhere? Im afraid thats out of range of my expertise. Bu thank you anyway,

Not in the code but it's in the presets. Please go and open for instance <your users directory>\Documents\VST3 Presets\Phuturetone\GR-8\80s.vstpreset with an text editor.

You can use notepad++ for instance.

The file will look like this excerpt

Code: Select all

VST3   FEFA00E95F5C493C8BB302B8CF296B60      +  <?xml version="1.0" ?>
<Preset pluginId="67526d38" name="80s" category="Lead">
 <Param id="7594" val="0" MIDI="100663296" />
 <Param id="7866188" val="0" MIDI="33554460" />
 <Param id="22026732" val="7.25" />
 <Param id="39733783" val="0" MIDI="33554514" />
 <Param id="58755578" val="2.75" />
 <Param id="112943581" val="-5" />
 <Param id="121505233" val="6.71667" MIDI="33554548" />
 [...]

Now do a text search for instance for "1358819125"

Say you get t hit like this

Code: Select all

 <Param id="1358819125" val="7.25" />

then simply change the value to 0. result

Code: Select all

 <Param id="1358819125" val="0" />

then save.

Why I mentioned notepad++. Because I let's you do search and replace on all files in a directory.

Thanks for the extensive answer. I will try that.

[ontrackp]

Hi BJ and Richard -- how about paid plugs for this month? Always makes it more fun (except for everyone who complains, of course!) Thanks.

Less challenge is more fun??? Come on…

I don't think it affects the challenge with the synth. Everyone paid for their DAW of choice, and one of the areas they all differ is in the available eqs, comps, reverbs and delays. Workflow using the plugs I purchased and like is simply more fun. That's all. Still have to program up good sounds and compose a new piece of music, which is plenty of challenge. Also, as a practical matter, there are enough very good free plugins around, along with what's built into all the DAW's, that using paid plugs doesn't really make a difference to the end result. Dialing in an appropriate and good sounding effect is just as challenging. Deciding how to use efx in your mix is the same with built in or commercial. Personally, I just welcome the opportunity to practice and learn more with the software I've purchased. I really don't think it affects that degree of challenge.

[ontrackp]

This is one phat sounding synth! I feel a bit like a traitor, trying it with Ableton (vst3 no problem), but other than that... nice. Velocity is a sad missing ingredient, but even that just suggests what sort of stuff you'd want to do with it.
Very promising!

So if you use the midi capabilities in your DAW to create velocity sensitivity over synth parameters, which is pretty easy to do, is that not allowed?

[Tj Shredder]

Of course its allowed. As automation is allowed…

[TheFrozenSea]

This is one phat sounding synth! I feel a bit like a traitor, trying it with Ableton (vst3 no problem), but other than that... nice. Velocity is a sad missing ingredient, but even that just suggests what sort of stuff you'd want to do with it.
Very promising!

So if you use the midi capabilities in your DAW to create velocity sensitivity over synth parameters, which is pretty easy to do, is that not allowed?

I've never done that before, checking google now and getting some answers for Reaper. But no one so far mentions polyphonic operation. Does the velocity of the last triggered note set the volume for all voices, as in turning the volume knob? Or is there a way to get polyphonic velocity control even though the plugin lacks it?