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Synth Master Jedi wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:07 pm It can also work against them, if they team up with some clown, as it can reflect poorly on the company.
I have a feeling that, nowadays, for many companies, it's "bad publicity is good publicity". I really can't interpret all those silly discussions about literally no known facts at all everywhere in any other way.

Typical case: a 50 second product video, which shows the right edge of the product. The internet speculates wildly, and everyone knows exactly what the product will be like, and why it will ultimately fail.

Just witnessed such a case in an Android smartphone forum.

As for your thoughts on influencers: Yep, totally agree. I have no idea why everyone is an expert for everything these days, and why people are so into that kind of thing these days. Most influencers are just hipster role models, I guess.

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EvilDragon wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:24 am Wonder what the CPU usage will be.
I hope they got the code from Sigi Kuhlmann, somehow
SQ8L is close to a perfect clone, and uses literally NO cpu.
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Synth Master Jedi wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:24 pm So, was this an unauthorized leak, since the original content has been pulled?

What kind of amateurs are software companies teaming up with, to get beta testers that are clueless and breaking NDAs by live streaming the very stuff they're not supposed to?
You're assuming they signed an nda

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Of all the beta teams I've ever been on, I've only every had to sign 1 nda, that was for camel audio about 15 years ago.

Of course, it's a given you don't disclose stuff anyway, but ppl do.....that's the nature of the process.....worst case scenario, you get taken out of the beta

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This twatch user doesn't have a clue about the sq80 nor any other Ensoniq product for that matter. The music he vomits out is infantile at best. He had no business even loading this beta vst. What a human disappointment.

Anyway, making an esq/sq80 vst shouldn't be difficult, but from what I heard they've so far managed to not nail any of it's sound. Perhaps it was this hack Muckybeats fault?

You'll only be getting half of the sq80 anyway as the rest of it's beauty lies within the hardware itself.

Arturia should be ashamed it's first glance of it's latest was paraded by this idiot.

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jojoB3 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:02 pm from what I heard they've so far managed to not nail any of it's sound.
We have a winner!

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jojoB3 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:02 pm You'll only be getting half of the sq80 anyway as the rest of it's beauty lies within the hardware itself.

Please explain your thought process.
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Teksonik wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:12 pm
jojoB3 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:02 pm You'll only be getting half of the sq80 anyway as the rest of it's beauty lies within the hardware itself.

Please explain your thought process.
the magic is literally in the hardware. have you not noticed? if you open one up to change the battery, some of the magic fairy dust seeps out.

and when you program it with a combination of menu diving, buttons and a single data slider, the feeling of achievement is so huge, its bound to sound so much better (and i'm not going back in to edit it now).

to be fair, the editing on that generation of ensoniqs isn't too bad because they had a decent vacuum-fluorescent display (unlike the later zr series where they skimped on the display in favour of moving low-level programming to a software editor that doesn't work) but it's still a button-pressing frenzy.

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I owned an ESQ-1 for 30 years and have played several SQ-80s. There is no reason they couldn't nail the sound. The SQ8L came really close if memory serves me correctly.

Does that mean Arturia will nail the sound? We'll just have to wait and see but it doesn't matter how close they get someone who never owned one or has never even been in the same room as one will say it doesn't sound anything like the original. That's just the usual KVR hardware snobbery.

At any rate the ESQ/SQ synths are capable of some very nice sounds so let's hope the Arturia version does them justice. I for one am looking forward to the release.... :tu:
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Didn't the hardware have a nice keyboard with polyphonic aftertouch? Luckily we have MPE these days so it's not unobtainable, but I suspect that's the kind of thing Jojo may have been alluding to.

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:38 pm hey had a decent vacuum-fluorescent display
I really like that part. Takes me back to years long past. Even the Speak and Spell had one! :hihi:

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:59 pm Didn't the hardware have a nice keyboard with polyphonic aftertouch? Luckily we have MPE these days so it's not unobtainable, but I suspect that's the kind of thing Jojo may have been alluding to.
Yes the SQ-80 has Poly AT but if your midi controller has it you're good to go. I really loved the keyboard on my Ensoniq VFX which had Poly AT but it suffered from horrible key clack at the end of the keystroke which I think could have been repaired. I kind of wish I hadn't sold the VFX but have no room for it now anyways.

Hopefully if the SQ80 is a success for Arturia they'll be encouraged to do a VFX and perhaps a Fizmo as well.
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Of course they'll get most of the waveforms and sound. This ableton twitch infant #4323 barely knew what to do with it.

If I have to explain how the hardware itself factors into the beauty of these old synths...(good grief). It's poly-at, it's filter, it's excellent and musical seq, it's 1-2 button editing, great keybed and build, and it's audio out jacks that lead to outboard processing that (should easily) lead to incredible sound design and control.

If you don't quite understand...sorry? Maybe stick to twitch?

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jojoB3 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:25 pm Of course they'll get most of the waveforms and sound. This ableton twitch infant #4323 barely knew what to do with it.

If I have to explain how the hardware itself factors into the beauty of these old synths...(good grief). It's poly-at, it's filter, it's excellent and musical seq, it's 1-2 button editing, great keybed and build, and it's audio out jacks that lead to outboard processing that (should easily) lead to incredible sound design and control.

If you don't quite understand...sorry? Maybe stick to twitch?
Oh I understand hardware snobbery when I see it. :wink:

So you're basically saying that no emulation of any synth will be more that 50% accurate because of the hardware?

Sorry but that's simply nonsense. Maybe stick to hardware forums?

It's 1-2 button editing :lol:

I used an Atari ST program called ESQ-APADE to program patches on my ESQ-1 so I wouldn't have to bend over a tiny display.
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i didn't bother to watch the stream but as soon as someone starts off with the "ableton twitch infant" routine, i just tune out.

though i will say "1-2 button editing" is a stretch. i do wonder whether you've programmed a sound on that generation of hardware.

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