What are the best VST instruments that sound "really" analog?
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
Le Synth1
- KVRAF
- 2318 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
- KVRian
- 823 posts since 27 Aug, 2020
This, pure analog goodness.
- KVRist
- 493 posts since 17 Dec, 2013 from The Netherlands
Synthmaster 2.9 lets you dial in detuning, non-linearities (whatever that means) and all sorts of “imperfectnesses” (is that a word?) as much as you want. And if you want “polished” clean sound, you don’t dial them in at all
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
Repro is the best IMO but it's still only like 90% there.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
When I listen to sound demos like this, I have to admit that you're probably right:briefcasemanx wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:00 pm Repro is the best IMO but it's still only like 90% there.
Such a nice distortion on that thing. Have yet to hear something like it in software.
Yes, I know, it's Youtube compressed, and therefor sounds 3,7469% degraded, but, still...
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
Yep good example. There's still a presence and dimension that software doesn't get on some sounds. There are some sounds where software is near indistinguishable though for sure. Usually not the most interesting sounds though. As a sound gets more unique or adds more distortion the difference between software and analog becomes bigger.chk071 wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:10 pmWhen I listen to sound demos like this, I have to admit that you're probably right:briefcasemanx wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:00 pm Repro is the best IMO but it's still only like 90% there.
Such a nice distortion on that thing. Have yet to hear something like it in software.
Yes, I know, it's Youtube compressed, and therefor sounds 3,7469% degraded, but, still...
I'm 100% software due to space. I have some analog gear in storage but almost never break it out. Just because I'm all software doesn't mean I can't admit that analog still sounds better.And it's not a "2 units never sound exactly the same" difference, as people try to argue. Both of those 2 analog units still sound analog, even if they are slightly different.
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- KVRAF
- 1655 posts since 3 Mar, 2009 from Colorado Springs
I feel Knifonium and Oberhausen (at high sample rates especially) have a lot of what I associate with analog gear but I'd still flip out over a real Knifonium (just, you know, monophonically flip out, and have tuning stability after an hour of it being on, relatively speaking, still drifting drifting drifting as the demon that is summoned when its tubes are powered changes its whims).
That said I feel like so much of the sound and context of a synth tone is up to other sound design aspects, too, and much of what is being short-hand discussed as "analog sound" comes down to things that are doable in the digital domain. I don't sweat the "analogness" of a sound so much as its fit, context, inspiration when I am working with it - if I need to add warmth and harmonics and subtle drift beyond what the oscillators and filtering are providing I can usually do that with the tools I have.
That said I feel like so much of the sound and context of a synth tone is up to other sound design aspects, too, and much of what is being short-hand discussed as "analog sound" comes down to things that are doable in the digital domain. I don't sweat the "analogness" of a sound so much as its fit, context, inspiration when I am working with it - if I need to add warmth and harmonics and subtle drift beyond what the oscillators and filtering are providing I can usually do that with the tools I have.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Only 16.000 €, and it's yours.Agreed wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:37 pm I feel Knifonium and Oberhausen (at high sample rates especially) have a lot of what I associate with analog gear but I'd still flip out over a real Knifonium
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- KVRist
- 115 posts since 8 Oct, 2016
That behringer model D demo sounds great. I use the legend for my minimoog needs and it suits me fine. My use case is pretty isn't pushing any boundaries though; it's mostly clean, almost never saturated patches that are fairly simple.
- Banned
- 3564 posts since 22 Aug, 2019
Same hereXpanderDude wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:06 pm That behringer model D demo sounds great. I use the legend for my minimoog needs and it suits me fine. My use case is pretty isn't pushing any boundaries though; it's mostly clean, almost never saturated patches that are fairly simple.
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- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
Xils 3LE is another good sounding VA ... https://www.xils-lab.com/products/xils-3-p-126.html
- KVRAF
- 26939 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
That is my assessment too... on both counts.briefcasemanx wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:00 pm Repro is the best IMO but it's still only like 90% there.
- KVRAF
- 26939 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
After some years of listening to youtube demos and playing a variety of the same synths in person, I would say that youtube works just fine to hear the essential character of a synth.chk071 wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:10 pmYes, I know, it's Youtube compressed, and therefor sounds 3,7469% degraded, but, still...
