Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects

[boojiboy]

It’s great and on sale.

[teilo]

I'm a bit confused.. but it looks like Tone 2 ElectraX, Icarus and Gladiator 3.0 are indeed native ARM versions when run as AU plugins (The VST and VST3 versions clearly say x86 when run in Reaper and they refuse to open in FL Studio). Also Reaper doesn't say "bridged x86" when the AU versions are opened there.

.. or then I am wrong about FL Studio not being able to bridge stuff (I know it can't bridge VST plugins nor VST3)?

Somebody remind me how I can with absolute certainty check the AU plugins if they are native or not?

Easiest way is to navigate into the plugin bundle in Terminal, and go to the Contents/MacOS directory, and run:

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file <binary name>

Example:

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$ cd /Library/Audio/Plug-ins/VST/Serum.vst/Contents/MacOS
$ file Serum

Serum: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64] [arm64]
Serum (for architecture x86_64):	Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64
Serum (for architecture arm64):	Mach-O 64-bit bundle arm64

[Eight4aWish]

Dawesome Abyss (marketed by Tracktion) is M1 native.
Version number is 1.1.3

[george]

Easiest way is to navigate into the plugin bundle in Terminal, and go to the Contents/MacOS directory, and run:

Or get ArchiChect https://eclecticlight.co/32-bitcheck-archichect/ and drop the file to the dock icon.

[sprnva]

Most of the Audec effects are now native (exceptions being StereoScope, CombSpread, StereoImage and Formant)

https://audec-music.com/

[bmanic]

I'm a bit confused.. but it looks like Tone 2 ElectraX, Icarus and Gladiator 3.0 are indeed native ARM versions when run as AU plugins (The VST and VST3 versions clearly say x86 when run in Reaper and they refuse to open in FL Studio). Also Reaper doesn't say "bridged x86" when the AU versions are opened there.

.. or then I am wrong about FL Studio not being able to bridge stuff (I know it can't bridge VST plugins nor VST3)?

Somebody remind me how I can with absolute certainty check the AU plugins if they are native or not?

Easiest way is to navigate into the plugin bundle in Terminal, and go to the Contents/MacOS directory, and run:

Code: Select all

file <binary name>

Example:

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$ cd /Library/Audio/Plug-ins/VST/Serum.vst/Contents/MacOS
$ file Serum

Serum: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64] [arm64]
Serum (for architecture x86_64):	Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64
Serum (for architecture arm64):	Mach-O 64-bit bundle arm64

Cheers for the tip!

I got the answer. Tone 2 older stuff is NOT native arm compatible, even as AU plugins. It's just that native arm version of FL Studio is able to load AU files due to the automatic rosetta 2 to arm translation layer that happens with AU plugins.

So no, Tone 2 stuff is not Native ARM compatible yet.

[teilo]

I got the answer. Tone 2 older stuff is NOT native arm compatible, even as AU plugins. It's just that native arm version of FL Studio is able to load AU files due to the automatic rosetta 2 to arm translation layer that happens with AU plugins.

It's not automatic, but has to be supported specifically by the developer. I was in contact with Rogue Amoeba when they went M1 native, and it didn't bridge at first until they enabled it, after my gentle encouragement.

Thank you for doing the check. I'll update the FL listing in an update, probably later today.

[teilo]

Easiest way is to navigate into the plugin bundle in Terminal, and go to the Contents/MacOS directory, and run:

Or get ArchiChect https://eclecticlight.co/32-bitcheck-archichect/ and drop the file to the dock icon.

I've found ArchiChect to be flaky, not always giving the right answer. Perhaps they've improved it of late.

[george]

I've found ArchiChect to be flaky, not always giving the right answer. Perhaps they've improved it of late.

No updates of the app this year. What's exactly the ocasional wrong behaviour with the app?

[mariusl32]

Presonus Studio One 5.4 was just released with native M1 support

[Tronam]

Presonus Studio One 5.4 was just released with native M1 support

That’s great to hear. Reason Studios announced native M1 support for an upcoming December update, so that pretty much just leaves Ableton Live and Cubase. Oh, and ProTools although I suspect they're entwined with iLok and can't proceed without them.

[machinesworking]

Looks like all of initial audio plug ins are native!
https://initialaudio.com

[machinesworking]

Presonus Studio One 5.4 was just released with native M1 support

That’s great to hear. Reason Studios announced native M1 support for an upcoming December update, so that pretty much just leaves Ableton Live and Cubase. Oh, and ProTools although I suspect they're entwined with iLok and can't proceed without them.

Reason going native is fantastic news.

Of all the bundles I own though, only AAS are there, so Reasons instruments and FX as native is huge. That puts me over the top for upgrading to 12.

[Atlatnesiti]

A "universal application" is not the same thing as "Universal Binary 2". Can't check it without installing on the Appstore.

Misleading advertising I’m afraid…

Didn't you yourself verify that in this case (VADrums2) it IS a Universal Binary? How is that misleading?

Also, please don't bother with reports of iOS apps like Sunrizer for this thread. Unless there is an actual macOS app (for example, like the Moog Model 15), I am not including it for the aforementioned reasons.

Yeah, my bad - lesson learned

[BoogerSnot]

Formatting on the effects is messed up, shows all the effects after Voxengo as being under Voxengo.

That sounds like nitpicking, and I suppose it is, but not because I don't appreciate this thread.

Really came here to post:

Cableguys - Halftime
https://www.cableguys.com/halftime.html
Intel or M1 (Native/Rosetta) processor

It's their only plug with this though, and I don't have it so I can't say for sure.