Reason 12 is here
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- KVRist
- 151 posts since 9 Nov, 2012
They want to drive people to the subscription model.
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- KVRAF
- 4490 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
think it's because of the/step towards the non-official version, btw. dunno why only S1 has rent-to-own construction on splicemachine_spirit wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:24 pm This is obviously just another step towards making Reason+ the only option. 499€ for standard perpetual license? They don't seriously consider these prices viable, they are entirely aware where Reason finds itself on the market and the pricing of the competition.
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- KVRist
- 461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000 from somewhere over the rainbow
If I remember correctly, annual business figures are "public" in Sweden. So it is (in theory) possible to get a coarse picture of their business development over the past years.chk071 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:20 pm Let's be honest for a second: You and I have no idea about the internal financial situation of Reason Studios. Therefor we can both only speculate what it costs them, what they earn, and how much of a price raise is justified for them to sell their software, and do a good living.
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Eclectrophonic Eclectrophonic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336599
- KVRist
- 327 posts since 24 Aug, 2014
Mimic doesn't have time-stretching. It has Transient detection though.antic604 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:49 am New features:
Press release:
- Mimic - new creative sampler with time-stretching and slicing
https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason ... ents/mimic- Updated Combinator - more flexible control of the devices, ability to create own GUI
https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason ... combinator- High-res, scalable & GPU accelerated GUI across Reason DAW and Rack Plugin
- Improved browser - provides results faster and on-the-fly (no need to hit Enter)
https://www.reasonstudios.com/blog/comb ... -reason-12
Shop ($/EUR129 upgrade from full Reason, $/EUR299 from Intro/Lite):
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/product/reason-12/
Video:
https://youtu.be/o_3u4Vxt_Ko
- KVRAF
- 2288 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Nom..nom.. YOUR MOM
Yes, Minic does have (real-time) time-stretching.Eclectrophonic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:28 pm Mimic doesn't have time-stretching. It has Transient detection though.
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Yep they are! https://www.allabolag.se/5565462206/bokslutCrossinger wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:56 pmIf I remember correctly, annual business figures are "public" in Sweden. So it is (in theory) possible to get a coarse picture of their business development over the past years.chk071 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:20 pm Let's be honest for a second: You and I have no idea about the internal financial situation of Reason Studios. Therefor we can both only speculate what it costs them, what they earn, and how much of a price raise is justified for them to sell their software, and do a good living.
Last time Reason Studio/Propellerheads didnt make a profit was 2012....
And if you have the time and want to read their yearly reports you can find them at https://www.hitta.se/f%C3%B6retagsinfor ... 5565462206
One interesting thing you find there is that the original PH-founders own about 31 per cent of the company....
And, I dont think any company really would rise their prices if things didnt look good.
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- KVRian
- 777 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
would be legit thou, if i get lets say after a 2 years subscription my hands on a product - thats then 2 years old - with a permanent license usable offline.machine_spirit wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:24 pm This is obviously just another step towards making Reason+ the only option. 499€ for standard perpetual license? They don't seriously consider these prices viable, they are entirely aware where Reason finds itself on the market and the pricing of the competition.
but my guess is they want the whole shebang, all of the cake, including the crumbles...just to make sure you pay for another two or three years with nothing at the end than being a HAPPY CUSTOMER...so they can bend you over a little more and service your account ;D
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- KVRian
- 1427 posts since 27 Apr, 2012
Footage of Reason Studios dealing with a customer:
https://youtu.be/WpE_xMRiCLE
https://youtu.be/WpE_xMRiCLE
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 8 Jun, 2018
in this chaos, i would like to know what were the normal sale prices, i.e. in percentages, 30%, sometimes 40% or more or less.
so one can calculate when there is as sale, how much it will cost. because mainly you buy updates/upgrades in sale, not always, it depends. well doesn't matter!
percentages please!! he he
so one can calculate when there is as sale, how much it will cost. because mainly you buy updates/upgrades in sale, not always, it depends. well doesn't matter!
percentages please!! he he
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- addled muppet weed
- 105790 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 2288 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Nom..nom.. YOUR MOM
6-to-12 is pretty incredible, and absolutely worth the current $129 USD being asked, IMHO. I mean, unless you really enjoy ReWire to another DAW, in which case - say on 6.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105790 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
tbh, i only bought it because thats what we were using in college alongside pro tools.EnochLight wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:10 pm6-to-12 is pretty incredible, and absolutely worth the current $129 USD being asked, IMHO. I mean, unless you really enjoy ReWire to another DAW, in which case - say on 6.
so i could work on stuff outside of college hours.
havent loaded it up in yeaaaaars!!!!
but thats kind of a tempting price, given what it is.
definitely worth considering
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machine_spirit machine_spirit https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=524282
- KVRist
- 130 posts since 10 Aug, 2021
Well there's one good thing with this price increase. Anyone new to DAWs is less likely to spend a significant chunk of money on a perpetual license of Reason now since it's the most expensive standard version available, thus avoiding investing in a DAW and type of license which IMO the developer is clearly very hesitant to support.
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
What do you mean?machine_spirit wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:50 pm Well there's one good thing with this price increase. Anyone new to DAWs is less likely to spend a significant chunk of money on a perpetual license of Reason now since it's the most expensive standard version available