Arturia SQ 80 V

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KVRAF
2066 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:22 pm

olepro wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:48 am
Hi all, and you too Arturia
I have now tried to import some sounds from my hardware SQ80 to make some comparisons with Arturia SQ80-V and also SQ8L

The most attack patches sounds wrong in Arturia SQ80
I have made an audio file which shows it very clearly.
It plays in this order: Ensoniq SQ80, SQ8L and last Arturia
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12glJqw ... sp=sharing
Woah -- this is more important than the Hydrasynth (sorry, kids).

If the SQ 80 V can't reproduce the original's iconic bell sounds, what good is it?

Is this the only issue you've heard, or does it have problems with other parts of the signal path or synthesis?

Steve
Here's some of my stuff: https://soundcloud.com/shadowsoflife. If you hear something you like, I'm looking for collaborators.

KVRAF
9027 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:50 pm

The issue could be with the import. Perhaps something isn't translating correctly.

Pick Me Pick me!
9026 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:52 pm

I was on the fence but ended up buying this one. I have SO many high quality sound generators. And I just took delivery of a Wavestate last week (despite not really liking hardware). Yet this SQ80 V gives me the SQ8L again (except 64bit and much more enhanced) and I really enjoyed that one.

There is some interesting play with the envelopes and the filter plus the harsh digital sound from the oscillators that all mesh really well imo. Sounds like nothing else I own. I'm very happy Arturia took the time to (re)create this one!

The soundpacks are really nice and I noticed the 'Import' menu option showed up as soon as I activated it. So far the few patches I've imported don't really sound like the sample audio of them though. I think the envelopes or modulators might not be always coming across? It's a young piece of code though so I'm sure there will be updates.

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KVRAF
34879 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:57 pm

Good to know people are getting it activated. It gives me hope that one day I will too.
Hi-de-Hi!

KVRist
278 posts since 3 Apr, 2018

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:34 pm

Effectsworks wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:04 pm
Like what I've seen so far. Another good release from Arturia!
Absolutely brilliant, worthy $49 and much more 😀

KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:40 pm

VitaminD wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:52 pm
I was on the fence but ended up buying this one. I have SO many high quality sound generators. And I just took delivery of a Wavestate last week (despite not really liking hardware). Yet this SQ80 V gives me the SQ8L again (except 64bit and much more enhanced) and I really enjoyed that one.

There is some interesting play with the envelopes and the filter plus the harsh digital sound from the oscillators that all mesh really well imo. Sounds like nothing else I own. I'm very happy Arturia took the time to (re)create this one!

The soundpacks are really nice and I noticed the 'Import' menu option showed up as soon as I activated it. So far the few patches I've imported don't really sound like the sample audio of them though. I think the envelopes or modulators might not be always coming across? It's a young piece of code though so I'm sure there will be updates.
Yes, I have compared it to the hardware, and it does not do well for now.
Too many problems translating the modulators and filter to sound exactly like the hardware.
SQ8L does it A LOT better
Listen to this soundfile. First playing are Hardware, SQ8L and last Arturia
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12glJqw ... sp=sharing
___The Jepptunes___
"Accept All the Good"

Sound design for SQ8L and Alchemy

KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:17 pm

planetearth wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:22 pm
olepro wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:48 am
Hi all, and you too Arturia
I have now tried to import some sounds from my hardware SQ80 to make some comparisons with Arturia SQ80-V and also SQ8L

The most attack patches sounds wrong in Arturia SQ80
I have made an audio file which shows it very clearly.
It plays in this order: Ensoniq SQ80, SQ8L and last Arturia
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12glJqw ... sp=sharing
Woah -- this is more important than the Hydrasynth (sorry, kids).

If the SQ 80 V can't reproduce the original's iconic bell sounds, what good is it?

Is this the only issue you've heard, or does it have problems with other parts of the signal path or synthesis?

Steve
In this bell sound there's use of some unusual settings to make the attack, but this should be able to work in a professional emulation.
Somehow SQ8L does all this perfect.
I haven't come across any patch SQ8L does wrong, no matter how extreme modulators is used in the synth.
___The Jepptunes___
"Accept All the Good"

Sound design for SQ8L and Alchemy

AnX
KVRAF
10156 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:28 pm

Are arturia aware of this problem?

KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:32 pm

I wrote in the Arturia forum also
___The Jepptunes___
"Accept All the Good"

Sound design for SQ8L and Alchemy

KVRAF
6131 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:03 am

olepro wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:40 pm
VitaminD wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:52 pm
I was on the fence but ended up buying this one. I have SO many high quality sound generators. And I just took delivery of a Wavestate last week (despite not really liking hardware). Yet this SQ80 V gives me the SQ8L again (except 64bit and much more enhanced) and I really enjoyed that one.

There is some interesting play with the envelopes and the filter plus the harsh digital sound from the oscillators that all mesh really well imo. Sounds like nothing else I own. I'm very happy Arturia took the time to (re)create this one!

The soundpacks are really nice and I noticed the 'Import' menu option showed up as soon as I activated it. So far the few patches I've imported don't really sound like the sample audio of them though. I think the envelopes or modulators might not be always coming across? It's a young piece of code though so I'm sure there will be updates.
Yes, I have compared it to the hardware, and it does not do well for now.
Too many problems translating the modulators and filter to sound exactly like the hardware.
SQ8L does it A LOT better
Listen to this soundfile. First playing are Hardware, SQ8L and last Arturia
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12glJqw ... sp=sharing
Is the SQ80 V example in that imported or was it a standard preset it has? I was wondering, as I noticed in your other post you mentioned importing.
Last edited by Examigan on Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:24 am, edited 1 time in total.

KVRAF
1652 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:10 am

This patch is imported and is my own creation
There's many others of my patches not sounding right in the Arturia synth
SQ8L is spot on compared to the hardware
I am in dialog with Arturia :-)
___The Jepptunes___
"Accept All the Good"

Sound design for SQ8L and Alchemy

KVRAF
2449 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:31 am

Preset scrolling just randomly stopped working. Had to close and open a new instance to fix.

KVRAF
8518 posts since 7 Apr, 2003

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:24 am

Hey. A non-biased and honest 1st impression and review here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P---AAuVOhg

KVRAF
1878 posts since 11 Mar, 2003

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:53 am

olepro wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:10 am
I am in dialog with Arturia :-)
This is good, I'm sure it will be sorted.

I'm enjoying this synth as an ex-ESQ-1 user, but have no way to compare as I now have a Fizmo.

KVRist
431 posts since 5 Jan, 2004 from In the now

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:00 am

When someone recreates the Adamski Killer bass sound spot on i'm interested. So far nothing have even remotely impressed me, Arturia needs better sound designers.
"If less is more, just think of how much more, more will be".

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