Updated U-He MFM2 1st look + Urs interview
- KVRAF
- 3538 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
I never liked the GUI of MFM2. This seems much better, and I am running out of u-he products to buy Hoping for another NI/u-he sale.
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- KVRAF
- 2945 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Really generous that he can release this with no cost to existing users with all of the improvements and OS updates.
- KVRAF
- 14988 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I’ve tried a bunch of different things, but what I like to do is put a saturation or driven preamp plugin before the delay and roll off the lows and some of the highs which can make a delay too much. Then I’ll put a filter plugin and something else to degrade things like a more heavy distortion or bit and or rate distortion in the feedback path, but again, mind your levels. You can get away with almost no feedback if you add gain to your loop. Then an analog limiter sim. Sometimes in the loop, sometimes after.perpetual3 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:26 pmI would be interested in what your D4 recipes are. I do use a limiter in the feedback path (FIRcomp2) but I just can’t seem to get the same character that I get from my other delays plugins, even if using basic filters. But frankly, once I feel a certain amount of frustration I move on to what I know works. So, certainly some laziness on my part.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:35 pmI’ve gotten phenomenal results, but watching the gain is very important, and I always put a limiter in the feedback path for obvious reasons.perpetual3 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:56 pm I’m getting it for sure. Even though I have Bitwig, delay-4 just doesn’t do it for me. Adding effects in the feedback path is really hit or miss for me.
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- KVRAF
- 5752 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
Thanks guys, that's why I mention stuff like that. I don't follow Apple and have no idea what coming
or going.
-Cheers
*Honestly though, how can anyone get by with even 512 gb of storage, are mac users using external drives or something. Is the thunderbolt connection really good enough to suffice for an internal drive? I literally just bought 4 TB worth of brand new 7200 rpm drives for my pc for $100, because I actually needed it.
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- KVRian
- 1140 posts since 16 May, 2007 from At home. Good bye city ways!
You can easily replace 3.5“ 7200 rpm drives with a USB SSD. Or if cost is a factor, get a 2.5“ RAID case and stack 4TB drives. ThunderBolt or USB 4 have ample bandwidth and will not be the limiting factor.
TBH, I couldn’t stand the noise of desktop drives anymore. My trusty iMac is so quiet that I can sometimes hear the 2.5“ drives behind it. And that’s pretty much all I can tolerate
TBH, I couldn’t stand the noise of desktop drives anymore. My trusty iMac is so quiet that I can sometimes hear the 2.5“ drives behind it. And that’s pretty much all I can tolerate
..off to play with my music toys - library music production.
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- u-he
- 28063 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yay and nay. We have replaced the existing filters with analogue modelled counterparts that are still very clean. They sound nearly identical to the old ones for static cutoff frequencies, but they produce none of the artifacts associated with "textbook DSP filters" when modulating them quickly.
I also forgot to mention in the video, below the Transient Balance is also another filter section for each pair of delays. When set to HP and LP respectively at the same Cutoff setting, one gets a perfect bandsplit among the two pairs of delay lines. So if you want to put your low frequency delay taps in the center or something, it's easy to accomplish.
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Terrific and well deserved update for MFM2, Urs!
Which only leaves Filterscape...
Which only leaves Filterscape...
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- u-he
- 28063 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
(and... *cough* Uhbik 2.0 *cough* to go beta/final)EvilDragon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:21 am Terrific and well deserved update for MFM2, Urs!
Which only leaves Filterscape...
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
And I guess massive CPU optimizations for Protoverb.
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- KVRAF
- 6459 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
I’ll try to hunt down a mfm2. Dont need it but i kinda cant not have it
I have 970 EVO in an external tb3 box and its as fast as internal in every practical sense.
7200rpm doesn’t get close to that
It’s in the ballpark of internal drive, although m1 goes little over 3000 MB/s.
edit: Capitalisation
Thunderbolt = 2700 MB/s r/w rates. (40Gbps connection).pekbro wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:51 amThanks guys, that's why I mention stuff like that. I don't follow Apple and have no idea what coming
or going.
-Cheers
*Honestly though, how can anyone get by with even 512 gb of storage, are mac users using external drives or something. Is the thunderbolt connection really good enough to suffice for an internal drive? I literally just bought 4 TB worth of brand new 7200 rpm drives for my pc for $100, because I actually needed it.
I have 970 EVO in an external tb3 box and its as fast as internal in every practical sense.
7200rpm doesn’t get close to that
It’s in the ballpark of internal drive, although m1 goes little over 3000 MB/s.
edit: Capitalisation
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- KVRAF
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Thanks, it was actually also aimed as a question if there are also changes under the hood and not “just“ a face lift - which of course alone would have also been great and more than you could ever expect from some other companies - at least other “big boys“ in the businessUrs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:19 amYay and nay. We have replaced the existing filters with analogue modelled counterparts that are still very clean. They sound nearly identical to the old ones for static cutoff frequencies, but they produce none of the artifacts associated with "textbook DSP filters" when modulating them quickly.
I also forgot to mention in the video, below the Transient Balance is also another filter section for each pair of delays. When set to HP and LP respectively at the same Cutoff setting, one gets a perfect bandsplit among the two pairs of delay lines. So if you want to put your low frequency delay taps in the center or something, it's easy to accomplish.
As mentioned, even “just“ a face lift would have been great and very generous for a free update, but this seems to be nuts, like all the other updates people are getting from you for free - and even in regards to Z2->Z3 almost free
end of my fanboy ravings (for now)
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- KVRAF
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Not meant as a rant, but even though it might be faster to type it all in non capital letters (except for the TB) your stated specs are completely unclear, unless one is already pretty familiar with these specs to begin with:Thunderbolt = 2700mb/s r/w rates. (40gbps connection).
I have 970 EVO in an external tb3 box and its as fast as internal in every practical sense.
7200rpm doesn’t get close to that
It’s in the ballpark of internal drive, although m1 goes little over 3000mb/s.
2700mb/s literally mean 2700 milli bits per second.
Not something to impress someone with - at all.
Of course not many would think that the m would stand for milli instead of mega, as it is extremely rarely used for measurements of transfer speeds and it's usually k, M, G, or T
but the use of b for bits and B for bytes is extremely common and still a large difference by the factor of 8 between them, so at least i'm not sure wether you actually meant bits or bytes.
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- KVRAF
- 6459 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
aren't you f**king pedantic todayFapFilter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:44 am
Not meant as a rant, but even though it might be faster to type it all in non capital letters (except for the TB) your stated specs are completely unclear, unless one is already pretty familiar with these specs to begin with:
2700mb/s literally mean 2700 milli bits per second.
Not something to impress someone with - at all.
Of course not many would think that the m would stand for milli instead of mega, as it is extremely rarely used for measurements of transfer speeds and it's usually k, M, G, or T
but the use of b for bits and B for bytes is extremely common and still a large difference by the factor of 8 between them, so at least i'm not sure wether you actually meant bits or bytes.
when i say mb/s i mean Megabytes per second, when i say gbps i mean Gigabits per second, as the convention is. (b/s - bytes/second, bps - bits per second)
as is also convention to address theoretical bandwidth in bits per second, and practical speed in bytes per second
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
True but it is also a convetion to use uppercase letters for mega/bytes, and lowercase for milli/bits. So while indeed pedantic, it does make a difference in how what you wanted to say reads.
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- KVRAF
- 6459 posts since 17 Dec, 2009