rob papen - predator 3

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KVRAF
7509 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:31 pm

When I scroll down, I can see all the synths and effects downloads, so you can download them separately if you want, otherwise I didn't get what you want 😉
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KVRist
134 posts since 18 Aug, 2020

Post Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:33 pm

Thanks bud

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KVRAF
7509 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:37 pm

:tu:
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KVRian
659 posts since 27 Apr, 2016

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:37 am

Predator related threads always perk my interest. I have a love hate relationship with it, especially v2.. I also dislike the GUI. It is a powerful synth parameter wise but the engine is rather dated sounding, a tad thin and possibly glassy but often in a cheap way, not a "classy glassy" it is also fake "stereo-y" not in a good way. It kind of sounds 2000 soft syth like. Which I suppose is a fairly unique for 2021. It seems to be generally out gunned sonically by the very vast majority of all other softsynths. So I hope the fundamental engine is rewritten from the ground up otherwise I won't be upgrading. V2 sounded pretty much the same as V1. A V3 sounding the same just makes no sense to me.

You can make it sound as good as other synths.. sometimes... but it can be ditched in favour of another synth, the effects are not of a high calibre. They are quite gritty.. which I guess again might add to its retro credentials.

It is a funny old synth really... sometimes it can be really great and sometiems it is just a pretty clear no.. you need to try it and judge it in the moment for what you are asking of it and decide if it or another synth is preferable.

As such it is on my B list but I still like it, it has a nostalgic/retro appeal... on the odd occasion.

edit: I see the engine seems to be having a rewrite after closer scanning of the thread. I will give the demo a whirl when it surfaces.

KVRist
251 posts since 10 Feb, 2017

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:50 am

I wonder if 2 will still be on sale when 3 is demoable so the decision can be made or if once it turns 3 version 2 will no longer be available

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KVRAF
7509 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:58 pm

Well, it isn't Serum or Massive X! However, it is a great synth that covers 90% of everyday bread and butter sounds with low cpu. It has also tons of presets that it's rare I need to make my own.

Personally, the more I use it, the more I love it :) I only expect it will get better with version 3.
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KVRAF
5453 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Post Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:58 pm

I asked Rob about the release (expected end of September and he answered:
It will be somewhere in October. We aimed for end September indeed, but still not ready.

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KVRAF
5453 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:49 am

Hi folks, next live stream October 7 20:00/8pm (CET) on Robs YouTube channel with Predator 3.

Robs orginal quote:
Today 30th of September there is NO live stream on YouTube! Next week 7th of October 'I will be back' with Predator-3.
...
8 pm CET (Amsterdam / Paris time)

KVRist
380 posts since 5 Oct, 2011 from Manchester, UK

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:22 am

Currently when using Velocity to modulate the mod amounts of the mod matrix or Env / LFO tab, it can’t do it polyphonically. I’d love to have that possibility in Predator.

Also having the option for Velocity to work when playing Legato notes. Currently whatever Velocity level is set for the first note is used for subsequent Legato notes no matter if you play with varying Velocity.


I did email Rob about these feature requests and this is what he said…
About the Legato mode, this I dislike to change because it is not the regular way of working (as all classic synths work this way) and will cause issues with the current presets.



Thanks for the input and with the polyphonic amount controls, IMO this should be possible.
Hopefully polyphonic amount controls make it in there :hyper:

I can make my peace with the Mono Velocity thing 8)
Looking forward to the release anyway.

KVRist
195 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:52 am

One of the greatest strengths of Rob Papen Synths is the sheer amount of useable/practical sounds that cover a wide range of genres.
Jon Ayers the developer and Rob make a good team.

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KVRAF
7509 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:56 am

4damind wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:49 am
Hi folks, next live stream October 7 20:00/8pm (CET) on Robs YouTube channel with Predator 3.

Robs orginal quote:
Today 30th of September there is NO live stream on YouTube! Next week 7th of October 'I will be back' with Predator-3.
...
8 pm CET (Amsterdam / Paris time)
Great 👍 I'll try to not miss it.
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KVRer
12 posts since 6 Mar, 2005

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:58 am

4damind wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:49 am
Hi folks, next live stream October 7 20:00/8pm (CET) on Robs YouTube channel with Predator 3.

Robs orginal quote:
Today 30th of September there is NO live stream on YouTube! Next week 7th of October 'I will be back' with Predator-3.
...
8 pm CET (Amsterdam / Paris time)
Are you sure? There's no announcement.

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KVRAF
5453 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:39 am

MartyK wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:58 am
4damind wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:49 am
Hi folks, next live stream October 7 20:00/8pm (CET) on Robs YouTube channel with Predator 3.

Robs orginal quote:
Today 30th of September there is NO live stream on YouTube! Next week 7th of October 'I will be back' with Predator-3.
...
8 pm CET (Amsterdam / Paris time)
Are you sure? There's no announcement.
Well, this _is_ Rob's announcement, I'm only posting it because not everyone follows him on Facebook where he wrote this.

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KVRAF
7509 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:07 pm

If you check in the comments of the Rocoder intro video on YouTube, there is a reply from Rob saying it's going to be released (Predator 3) on 20th of October this month 😀
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KVRer
12 posts since 6 Mar, 2005

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:36 pm

4damind wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:39 am
MartyK wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:58 am
4damind wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:49 am
Hi folks, next live stream October 7 20:00/8pm (CET) on Robs YouTube channel with Predator 3.

Robs orginal quote:
Today 30th of September there is NO live stream on YouTube! Next week 7th of October 'I will be back' with Predator-3.
...
8 pm CET (Amsterdam / Paris time)
Are you sure? There's no announcement.
Well, this _is_ Rob's announcement, I'm only posting it because not everyone follows him on Facebook where he wrote this.
Ah, ok. I'm not at Facebook so I couldn't know it.

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