so, there's a website out there, which shall remain nameless, where you can check some nice how-to video files of some of my favorite producers, who will remain nameless (underground-leftfield dance producers.)
and, its very informative, what with these cats giving breakdowns on how they make their tracks,their rigs, even building a track from the ground up.
what was amazing, though, was; one cat said he used cracked software, as does "everybody" he associates with... another cat was lauding limewire. and both of these guys were characterizing the music biz as a mess!
i can understand the 14 year old downloading her black eyed peas... what can ya do? but when major, magazine cover artists, whose income depends on avoiding the p2p's, admit to downloading songs AND vst's, what can ya say?
where are we headed? just wonder if the days of the "professional" musician or "professional" vst designer are numbered?
u got it how?
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- Banned
- 4026 posts since 27 Jan, 2004
nah...not really...there will always be ppl who pays for stuff...If you're famous you will prolly use warez if you find the item in question interesting, but you wouldn't want to buy it (don't really need it)...someone always will tho'
No sweat!
No sweat!
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- KVRist
- 89 posts since 12 Nov, 2002
No sweat?
thats bs
if there on the cover of magazines they can afford to support those who code the software that enables them to make money.
thats just nasty...
what web site ...i would like to check out some of those videos.
thats bs
if there on the cover of magazines they can afford to support those who code the software that enables them to make money.
thats just nasty...
what web site ...i would like to check out some of those videos.
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
talking cats!soultrane wrote:
and, its very informative, what with these cats giving breakdowns on how they make their tracks,their rigs, even building a track from the ground up.
what was amazing, though, was; one cat said he used cracked software, as does "everybody" he associates with... another cat was lauding limewire.
PIRATE cats?!Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 55 posts since 7 Apr, 2004
well, i just think its funny pro musicians are the ones who
a) use p2p to cop trax, when their bread is buttered by people NOT downloading p2p but paying 4 them... or
b) have big studios, with tons of hardware, but still feel loading in a cracked minimoog v, for instance, is no big deal.
if artists don't speak up on file sharing, who will?
a) use p2p to cop trax, when their bread is buttered by people NOT downloading p2p but paying 4 them... or
b) have big studios, with tons of hardware, but still feel loading in a cracked minimoog v, for instance, is no big deal.
if artists don't speak up on file sharing, who will?
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
Just to say this - back when Kraftwerk hacked beatboxes to make them 'personally playable' to Bernard Albrecht and others building Heath & Allen and Paia synths and playing a Melodia while being surrounded by Emu's and such... I don't find 'cracked software' THAT much different? Sure, the equilibrium balance of what can be had and how it can be incorporated is HUGE today. But it still comes down to 'talent' and 'commitment'. IE: so you got a crack of Discovery which you think is a COOL synth. Yet, new patchbanks can't be loaded to it. Do you carry on and learn and create with it, or chuck it for the next crack that comes by? Honestly, I'd rather hear someone who's learned the 'hard way', but is so endearing of their cracked synth/effect, as opposed to someone who's been 'spoon fed' and has all the latest patches and updates so they hardly have to make any effort to make new interesting music.
How does THAT squeeze your tea bags?
How does THAT squeeze your tea bags?
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- KVRist
- 89 posts since 12 Nov, 2002
i still want to see these videos
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- KVRAF
- 2058 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Canada
I wanna know the website too .soultrane wrote:so, there's a website out there, which shall remain nameless, where you can check some nice how-to video files of some of my favorite producers, who will remain nameless (underground-leftfield dance producers.)
and, its very informative, what with these cats giving breakdowns on how they make their tracks,their rigs, even building a track from the ground up.
what was amazing, though, was; one cat said he used cracked software, as does "everybody" he associates with... another cat was lauding limewire. and both of these guys were characterizing the music biz as a mess!
i can understand the 14 year old downloading her black eyed peas... what can ya do? but when major, magazine cover artists, whose income depends on avoiding the p2p's, admit to downloading songs AND vst's, what can ya say?
where are we headed? just wonder if the days of the "professional" musician or "professional" vst designer are numbered?
Why ?
So I can go wholesale sample the fukkers and use
their stuff in my tracks.
If it's been made with cracks/warez they ask for
it.
Honestly if the validity of purchased software
means nothing to them then the music they make
deserves the same level of WHOLSALE disrespect
if you ask me.
You made it with warez people don't think you
should be makin' a profit of it then sorry
.What a bunch of fuggin' tossers !!!!! [/b]
Links to other media sites and contact details are available at the bottom of my artists website.
http://venndiagram.ca
http://venndiagram.ca
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Aw, it's not that shocking. Puss here isn't a pirate... mais il fait un chevalier très formidable, n'est-ce paws?haydxn wrote:talking cats!
Meffy
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
The other irony here is the other thread called 'Your Favorite Vocal Sample...' Everyone remembers samples in songs taken from movies, other songs, found sources... LOTS of them! Is Clint Eastwood or Rickie Lee Jones suing Ministry or The Orb? Yeah sure, I'm sure these bands have paid certain 'clearances' hopefully beforehand. But we all know MANY don't still.
Software, samples - just the way it is.
Bruce Hornsby version I mean, not the Tu Pac rip off.
Software, samples - just the way it is.
Bruce Hornsby version I mean, not the Tu Pac rip off.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 55 posts since 7 Apr, 2004
dj shadow using a 4 track cassette for years as a kid, squeezing every possibility out of it, to the point of manually flanging the tape and turning it around for reverse fx and what not, till finally saving up enough for his mpc 3000 and, as he says, being so stoked that he was "shaking and sweating" as he went thru the manual in one night, that qualifies as the "hard way."Steven West wrote:Honestly, I'd rather hear someone who's learned the 'hard way'
downloading a $150 plug in 4 free doesn't seem like much struggle, especially since your scenario is so unrealistic... u mean a guy's just gonna download ONE cracked synth... and stay on it and program it even though he can't put in new presets? doubt it.
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- KVRist
- 89 posts since 12 Nov, 2002
yo why cant you give the url to these videos
im really interested in seeing how these pros
build tracks and such....
common ive been waiting all night!
im really interested in seeing how these pros
build tracks and such....
common ive been waiting all night!
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- KVRian
- 534 posts since 18 Mar, 2002 from france
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galaxy rayyys! powerful.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
cats using cracks 
ive seen mice scurryin into cracks and all kinds of crevices but it makes me wonder if cats are up to something now
ill keep a eye on mine and let you know if i see any suspicious behaviour,i suggest you do the same if your a cat owner
ive seen mice scurryin into cracks and all kinds of crevices but it makes me wonder if cats are up to something now
ill keep a eye on mine and let you know if i see any suspicious behaviour,i suggest you do the same if your a cat owner
