This is a questions I've asked on a few forums and I wonder what folks here will say.
I have Kinetic(a great app, BTW) and make my own audio loops for it(using free loops from magazine CD-roms). So it should be easy as pie to create grooveclips in Sonar and zip them right over to Kinetic. This has worked in the past but lately when I export grooveclips they don't follow the tempo changes like they're supposed to. what happens is that the slower I set the tempo in Kinetic, the loops stays the same, there's just more and more of a gap between loop cycles.
Has anyone else ever had this happen?
Wavs into grooveclips for Kinetic
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- KVRAF
- 1703 posts since 11 Nov, 2004 from Kansas City, MO
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- KVRian
- 933 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Guanajuato, Mexico
Hey Moe,
There's the official Kinetic forum at www.cakewalk.com - you might get some more responses there. I recall someone had the same problem as you.
Anyway, by what you say I assume that your loops are already "acidized", so you would expect them to loop perfectly at any tempo, right?
If that's not happening, then maybe you have set the wrong pattern length for the loops. I haven't really experienced that problem myself but I don't use many audio loops either.
If you want to send me a Kinetic project where this happens, I'd be glad to check it and see what can I do.
Good luck.
There's the official Kinetic forum at www.cakewalk.com - you might get some more responses there. I recall someone had the same problem as you.
Anyway, by what you say I assume that your loops are already "acidized", so you would expect them to loop perfectly at any tempo, right?
If that's not happening, then maybe you have set the wrong pattern length for the loops. I haven't really experienced that problem myself but I don't use many audio loops either.
If you want to send me a Kinetic project where this happens, I'd be glad to check it and see what can I do.
Good luck.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1703 posts since 11 Nov, 2004 from Kansas City, MO
Well, I think I may have answered my own question. The way it seems to work is this:
You can create grooveclips in Sonar just fine, but if you use the Export-Audio in the file menu they will NOT be saved in the hard drive as grooveclips. To do this, click on the Save icon in the Loop Construction window. The grooveclip will then save in whatever folder you want. I did this with five or six audio loops and they worked in Kinetic OK. Of course, the wav has to be already converted into a grooveclip in the Loop Construction view for this to work.
You can create grooveclips in Sonar just fine, but if you use the Export-Audio in the file menu they will NOT be saved in the hard drive as grooveclips. To do this, click on the Save icon in the Loop Construction window. The grooveclip will then save in whatever folder you want. I did this with five or six audio loops and they worked in Kinetic OK. Of course, the wav has to be already converted into a grooveclip in the Loop Construction view for this to work.
"The Law speaks too softly to be heard amid the din of arms." -- Gaius Marius {Roman consul,soldier}
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- KVRian
- 933 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Guanajuato, Mexico
That's right.
You can also use the free version of Sony Acid (called Acid XPress) to acidize your loops. I find it much faster to work with than Sonar.
You can get it from www.mediasoftware.sonypictures.com
You can also use the free version of Sony Acid (called Acid XPress) to acidize your loops. I find it much faster to work with than Sonar.
You can get it from www.mediasoftware.sonypictures.com
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
there are various levels of 'acidize'
the acidize that Acid Xpress is capable of can manage time-stretching/syncing to beats, but if I recall correctly it doesn't manage to insert all levels of acidize information - lik einserted beat slices (???)
maybe someone else could refresh my memory on this one
the acidize that Acid Xpress is capable of can manage time-stretching/syncing to beats, but if I recall correctly it doesn't manage to insert all levels of acidize information - lik einserted beat slices (???)
maybe someone else could refresh my memory on this one
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- KVRian
- 933 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Guanajuato, Mexico
You're right, wrench. I had not noticed that about Acid XPress. Too bad.the acidize that Acid Xpress is capable of can manage time-stretching/syncing to beats, but if I recall correctly it doesn't manage to insert all levels of acidize information - lik einserted beat slices (???)
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
http://www.x2sw.com/shareware/acidizer.asp
is a little utility for $20 usd that just showed up on a thread in Cakewalk's P5 forum
this will fully acidize files, and includes the ability to convert a batch of files
is a little utility for $20 usd that just showed up on a thread in Cakewalk's P5 forum
this will fully acidize files, and includes the ability to convert a batch of files