Worrying about using old samples and the legal ramifications...

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elxsound wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:25 pm
Memsterrr wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:12 pm
elxsound wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:09 am The discussion is nice, but yeah... cringe worthy because it was like verbal vomit.

The end result is not bad. Interesting at least.
I don't think it was cringe worthy verbal vomit lol. Why is it that when someone chooses to speak their mind, in an elaborate way it's considered verbal vomit? Should I stick to two liners or a couple of sentences because that's the excepted norm on social media nowadays? 😒. The very reason i stopped posting on social media like Facebook etc. is because everyone is so f**king dumbed down, and it's why I chose forums.

And for the fella who wrote "compose for a change" I'm going to say, piss off 😆 90% of composed music out there today is generic, boring, and they all sound the same. Sampling offers a different landscape, and a better texture if you can flip it right. This is why, to me, Hip Hop will forever be the greatest genre. Especially Hip Hop that uses samples circa 50s - 80s. Imagination > composition.
“Elaborate” :lol:

Are you from Portland? The last person. I remember saying Hip Hop was the greatest genre was this guy from Portland who sampled the Beatles. The song was basically 2 sampled sections of A Day In The Life on loop, but sure Hip Hop was the greatest.

That’s what I say cringe worthy. I like hip hop, but then you get these people standing on the shoulders of actual greats claiming they did it better because they looped it, that’s when I’m out.

I think sampling can be amazing but those that I know who’ve done it well at least respect the music they’ve sampled. They also know how to listen to more than just hip hop.
Yeh, you'd be hard-pressed to actually show me a genre that compares though. I'll wait. And don't say techno or anything that sounds like a f**king electric hazard in full effect 🤣

My tastes are my tastes. Why judge? Hip Hop to me is the greatest genre, because it represents real things. Real struggles. It reflects the decay of society. What does your music genre do other than pander to the well-adjusted and well-off, and thus alienate many people?

I'm talking about real uncompromising Hip Hop here btw, not that fake shit meandering across the airwaves in the form of trap, or highly commercialised cookie cutter Hip Hop for 16 year old girls.

The texture, style and entire art-form that is true Hip Hop, is second to no other genres. In my view. If you have a problem with that, I could't give the slightest shit.

With that said, I do appreciate other genres from which Hip Hop invariably spawned -- Jazz, Rock, Soul etc. etc. etc. But I don't live in the past, nor care much for what it brought to the table. I deal with the current evolution of music and what it does in bringing people together right now, and whether or not it is creating consciousness on social issues and things akin to that... and Hip Hop, with all its simplicity, truthfulness and grit (again, not that fake shit on the radio), has been carrying that burden almost single handedly in my view. No other genre even comes close when it comes t connecting people, or connecting WITH people. It's about being open-minded enough to actually listen.

But I guess Hip Hop will forever be the forgotten, and neglected child, despite having more talent in its little toe, than all of its other musical siblings combined.

Now cringe please at my directness, passion and obviously annoying vernacular 😆

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not even sure what you are saying now?

and yup, i do enjoy hip hop (in many forms, from the under under ground to the wombling free)

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in fact im currently sat, with my pipe n slippers, listening to some underground stuff. :)

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Listen through this instrumental album while you do... you might enjoy it 🤪 (note: I rarely listen to anything other than instrumentals, as 90% of rappers suck)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlC1JmfzHWw&t=976s

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vurt wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:17 pm in fact im currently sat, with my pipe n slippers, listening to some underground stuff. :)
I can dig it!

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:o
i think some rappers don't suck!!!

yeah many do.

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vurt wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:17 pm in fact im currently sat, with my pipe n slippers, listening to some underground stuff. :)
Almost same
Watching Curb Your Enthusiasm
Might sample Suzy

"You bald f**k!"
Don't feed the gators,y'all
https://m.soundcloud.com/tonedeadj

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Literally. Haha. If you ain't G Rap, Jehst, Vinnie Paz, Black Thought, and a few handfuls of others... I ain't interested. Because they just don't have "it"... whatever that it may be. Cadence, delivery, flow, lyrical content perhaps? A lot of rappers sound like fish out of water on beats. And I don't f**k with that shit,
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Memsterrr wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:19 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:17 pm in fact im currently sat, with my pipe n slippers, listening to some underground stuff. :)
I can dig it!
https://youtu.be/aHDcfUnGhko

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melomood wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:22 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:17 pm in fact im currently sat, with my pipe n slippers, listening to some underground stuff. :)
Almost same
Watching Curb Your Enthusiasm
Might sample Suzy

"You bald f**k!"
Im not bald :o

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I like Flobots

Laugh all you want

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ZzaXxK_L0
Don't feed the gators,y'all
https://m.soundcloud.com/tonedeadj

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vurt wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:24 pm
melomood wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:22 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:17 pm in fact im currently sat, with my pipe n slippers, listening to some underground stuff. :)
Almost same
Watching Curb Your Enthusiasm
Might sample Suzy

"You bald f**k!"
Im not bald :o
:hihi: not you
A sample of her yelling it
Don't feed the gators,y'all
https://m.soundcloud.com/tonedeadj

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jancivil wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:18 pm one supposes the person that's strongly against intellectual property hasn't any
Yeh, and what an elitist, stupid comment that is. Everyone has intellectualism, but not everyone has property. Take all the time you need to digest that :wink:

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And if your argument is simply, what is created, becomes property, then you're just another shallow, self-appointed guardian of the status quo, completely averse to any concept of sharing, I'd imagine. And given that all information and forms of expression are essentially serial, aka borrowed, your point becomes even more moot. Intellectual property is an illusion. What isn't an illusion, however, is creativity. And it doesn't matter whether it's Mozart or DJ Premier sampling Mozart... all forms of creativity bear their merits (And I'd take Primo all day over Mozart!).

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