Ecoplate Beta (60 day trial + sweepstakes)

[v1o]

Just got an email saying the full version is now released. There's a discount for beta testers.

[jens]

I wonder if it’s just a few impulse responses packaged as a plugin like the Arturia plate.

https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... tcount=425

Yeah it might have taken work to create it but you’re still paying for a few impulse responses with some saturation.

No, you're not - you either missed or failed to comprehend the bit where he explained that only the linear bit uses IRs while the rest is using physical modelling algorithms.

[Ploki]

meh. i just bought ValhallaPlate instead.

[Passing Bye]

meh. i just bought ValhallaPlate instead.

Amazing thing!

[v1md]

I like this reverb. To be fair, not sure why Valhalla is still considered the gold standard for plates. Don't get me wrong, it's really versatile and very low on the cpu, and was way ahead of its game when it was released, but it has aged. Also, it doesn't sound like a plate at all, and it kind of fell behind a lot of other plate plugins sound-wise in my opinion ... Ecoplate has got some potential, the plugin is a little rough around the edges but the sound is very platey, and it might become a nice add-on.

[Passing Bye]

Valhalla Plate was never considered gold standard for plate reverbs, you got some stuff mixed up, maybe with UAD one. Valhalla Plate is just an amazing reverb, real plate or fake plate or old plate or bronze plate or whatever.

[elxsound]

Valhalla Plate was never considered gold standard for plate reverbs, you got some stuff mixed up, maybe with UAD one. Valhalla Plate is just an amazing reverb, real plate or fake plate or old plate or bronze plate or whatever.

Any idea how that compares to UVI plate? I have several dedicated plate reverbs and I’ve been able to get UVI to replicate what I like including the Mercury7 plate. I could get Valhalla plate close on most things but still prefer UVIs over it.

We’re talking subtle differences in many cases so before the “all reverbs sound same crowd” come in, I’m asking because as a non UAD user, I’m curious.

[Passing Bye]

I dunno sincerely, I have no experience with real plates either or other plugins doing plates or have preference in plate sounds, I like Valhalla Plate as an reverb for mixing, based on my ears and mixes, it works, effortlessly, that's it for me.

[v1md]

Valhalla Plate was never considered gold standard for plate reverbs, you got some stuff mixed up, maybe with UAD one. Valhalla Plate is just an amazing reverb, real plate or fake plate or old plate or bronze plate or whatever.

Any idea how that compares to UVI plate? I have several dedicated plate reverbs and I’ve been able to get UVI to replicate what I like including the Mercury7 plate. I could get Valhalla plate close on most things but still prefer UVIs over it.

We’re talking subtle differences in many cases so before the “all reverbs sound same crowd” come in, I’m asking because as a non UAD user, I’m curious.

I can't get the same sounds out Valhalla and UVI. They are based on different algorithms, and you can really hear that. Personally, I find the Valhalla sound quite grainy and digital, particularly on the highs. I used to like it, but there are better sounding options today IMO.
UVI sounds quite a bit more natural, but it's a cpu hog ...

[Ploki]

I bought plate like two weeks ago lol.

I just feel its easy to fit in a mix.
Needed 2C audio replacements and it more than does the job.
Tried a few other plates but were too cumbersome

[Passing Bye]

I just feel its easy to fit in a mix.

Exactly, that was it for me, just used it in mixes and was floored away!

[elxsound]

Valhalla Plate was never considered gold standard for plate reverbs, you got some stuff mixed up, maybe with UAD one. Valhalla Plate is just an amazing reverb, real plate or fake plate or old plate or bronze plate or whatever.

Any idea how that compares to UVI plate? I have several dedicated plate reverbs and I’ve been able to get UVI to replicate what I like including the Mercury7 plate. I could get Valhalla plate close on most things but still prefer UVIs over it.

We’re talking subtle differences in many cases so before the “all reverbs sound same crowd” come in, I’m asking because as a non UAD user, I’m curious.

I can't get the same sounds out Valhalla and UVI. They are based on different algorithms, and you can really hear that. Personally, I find the Valhalla sound quite grainy and digital, particularly on the highs. I used to like it, but there are better sounding options today IMO.
UVI sounds quite a bit more natural, but it's a cpu hog ...

I was able to get UVI to replicate Valhalla Plate, but not the other way around.

I was more interested in UAD though. It's not one that I have access to, but I'm definitely curious.

[yellowmix]

There aren't many other Ecoplate alternatives. There's the free Greg Hopkins set with 5 IRs floating around. Past To Future sells one recorded to tape. IK T-Racks Sunset Sound has Sunset Sound's Ecoplate. There's an Ecoplate II in Altiverb. MSRP is a lot for a single model—it's priced same as IK Sunset Sound—so the PA EXT sale helped make it more palatable.

The plugin runs with 2048 samples of latency so no live tracking with it. The plugin offers a good amount of shaping controls: low and high pass filters (pre or post), 4-band EQ, stereo width, pre-delay (syncable), and analog modelling (hardware noise and tube saturation) with saturation and noise gain controls in a flyout panel.

You can move a skeuomorphic lever or use modern buttons to change the decay time. Click on the "Mix" label to switch to a reverb level mode where the input is fixed at its input gain. You have independent input and output gain controls as well, with VU meters. There are presets, including those made by Marc Daniel Nelson, which are good starting points. It sounds smooth and clean without being too bright, and has a characteristic strong initial density with nice dispersion. Low pass and EQ helps clear mud. The manual explains everything clearly with illustrations.

It's lacking some niceties: no resetting controls, no GUI resizing, no built-in preset saving (you can use your DAW's system of course), no dynamics. But for a young product line it's plenty usable. I've been spoiled by Lustrous Plates, which added ducking/gating/compressing recently. Never got along with Valhalla Plate; always preferred plate IRs until Breeze 2's hyper-plate algorithm got that initial density right. There's still room for the Ecoplate, it just sounds great.

[Andreya_Autumn]

I've been spoiled by Lustrous Plates.

100%

Only time I ever really fell in love with a reverb plug.