Some are also quite unusual, like MMorph and MSpectralDelay. But 112 plugins - that's massive!Ploki wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:14 pm Idk, i think melda plugins are good quality.
Usually not as refined as some others and they have parameters wide open so you need to find sweetspots - but still.
If you’re referring to GUIs, i’ve seen worse. And certainly also better
Melda plugins finally looking good!
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- KVRAF
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- 2270 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
- 10375 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
^^^
If so, then why do nearly all developers provide User Manuals or pop-up help or both?
If so, then why do nearly all developers provide User Manuals or pop-up help or both?
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- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
pop up help is part of the interfaceDarkStar wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:18 am ^^^
If so, then why do nearly all developers provide User Manuals or pop-up help or both?
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I think you have to distinguish. If you need the manual to figure out what is where, or how to work with the user interface, then something is wrong with the user interface. BUT, if someone tries to operate a sophisticated or professional software for the first time, and you want to prevent that he's like "Uuh, WTF???", then you better explain what the sections and parameters are there for.DarkStar wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:18 am ^^^
If so, then why do nearly all developers provide User Manuals or pop-up help or both?
A manual is definitely not there to explain the user interface. It's there to explain the software, what it does, and how it can be operated. Otherwise, there's something wrong with the software. A good interface won't get in the way of using the software for what it does. A bad one does that the whole time.
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- 1441 posts since 14 Apr, 2008 from velvet noise
The prodcutline of some big players is not small either. Waves, Softube, PA (if you count them one). I only own two of the 112 plugins but I tried a lot of them and I would not say there is a lack of quality. Their are definitely issues with ui/ux and redundancies with some plugins. Also some weird pricing schemes and business decisions. I would buy MXXX for something around €300 right away. Beside that I think the quality holds up with most competitors.Neon Breath wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:39 pm 112 plugins
Someone tell this guy that quality is often better than quantity.
It refuses description, allowing only the vague approach of adjectives: dark, light, raw, angelic. Who or what is making these noises? Where are they coming from and what do they point to? What kind of entity can leave such a troubling sonic remnant?
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- 13 posts since 4 Dec, 2020
Agree. But to be fair, once you sort out the MB plugins which are more like BlueCatAudio's MB-7 mixer loading the single band version and don't require much separate vetting, you already only have half of them left. If you then sort out duplicates, like the linear phase/auto/dynamic/analog variants of the equalizer or the dozen dynamics and reverbs, it becomes a quite usual amount of plugins that need the actual work done.Neon Breath wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:39 pm 112 plugins
Someone tell this guy that quality is often better than quantity.
...we're almost in 2022 with v15 of the plugins and installing 32bit is still mandatory, so is installing data that is not needed and the uninstaller even leaves piles of this data behind...
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
I'd say most of them are pretty run of the mill soundwise, but extremely tweakable. Which has its place but most of the time I'm not choosing them over the best analog modelled plugins.codec_spurt wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:05 amNeon Breath wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:39 pm 112 plugins
Someone tell this guy that quality is often better than quantity.
Vojtech is a madman!
If you ever took the time to check out most of those 112 plugins, you would find they are pretty excellent.
Some of the Melda business decisions are complete nonsense. I'm sure there's one guy that actually purchased the subscription, only because he had a literally stroke while browsing the Melda shop and accidentally clicked the wrong button. The price determination for the bundles and the subscription feels like a fever dream.
I'll add that the times when the complete bundle is 50% off like right now, I think it's a perfectly fine deal.
- KVRAF
- 3017 posts since 8 Jun, 2018
do we need another opinion? do we need another opinion!! yes!!!
me like them, they are great, soundwise and feature wise, even from plugins that you don't expect much from, they give results, that i like, and need...
so i am MComplete of course, which also saves me a lot of trouble to check out new effects. you can almost mimic every effect with them. or there is a better, for me, version in Melda.
of course i own other FX (and instrument...) plugins, that i also use, of course. i like to have options, an arsenal, a studio, because although it is ITB, it is a studio, and sometimes you need that one special plugin...
Melda The Gui.... well with a touchscreen, it is fast! menu-diving, when you are used to it, fast!
but of course; they work great for how i work, how my music sounds. the new GUI, it has some improvements, the compressor, or better the Turbo one, has now the real UI... nice, and perhaps in someway you can work faster, if you are acquinted with them.
especially combining the more spectral based plugins, you can achieve what you only can, with, well with what, o yes there are other effects/instruments that can do it.
even the TONSTRUM SPCTR-EQ, or how it is written, can be made with MXXX...
do i have any criticism, i.e. things i think aren't implemented well, yes of course. mainly MSoundFactory, but that is still a work in progress, and with the limitations, that can be gone over some time, it still a beast of a synth.
MMorph is already mentioned, wow, MSpectralDelay, wow, MTransformer wow... and well chain them! and get wild!
but that is me, it is just an opinion. i am glad that Melda exists (and Unfiltered Audio, and so many others, the list is long..., or IKM..). it gives me tools i need. next to the others, analog modelled plugins, for example, as mentioned.
but i use all ad hoc, when it is necessary. that they are 'digital' i don't mind, i like that, mainly because the sounds i work with (home brewed), are already, well, it depends, haha. but mostly they don't need an analog treatment, i use analog treatments not for the analog, but for the sound...
me like them, they are great, soundwise and feature wise, even from plugins that you don't expect much from, they give results, that i like, and need...
so i am MComplete of course, which also saves me a lot of trouble to check out new effects. you can almost mimic every effect with them. or there is a better, for me, version in Melda.
of course i own other FX (and instrument...) plugins, that i also use, of course. i like to have options, an arsenal, a studio, because although it is ITB, it is a studio, and sometimes you need that one special plugin...
Melda The Gui.... well with a touchscreen, it is fast! menu-diving, when you are used to it, fast!
but of course; they work great for how i work, how my music sounds. the new GUI, it has some improvements, the compressor, or better the Turbo one, has now the real UI... nice, and perhaps in someway you can work faster, if you are acquinted with them.
especially combining the more spectral based plugins, you can achieve what you only can, with, well with what, o yes there are other effects/instruments that can do it.
even the TONSTRUM SPCTR-EQ, or how it is written, can be made with MXXX...
do i have any criticism, i.e. things i think aren't implemented well, yes of course. mainly MSoundFactory, but that is still a work in progress, and with the limitations, that can be gone over some time, it still a beast of a synth.
MMorph is already mentioned, wow, MSpectralDelay, wow, MTransformer wow... and well chain them! and get wild!
but that is me, it is just an opinion. i am glad that Melda exists (and Unfiltered Audio, and so many others, the list is long..., or IKM..). it gives me tools i need. next to the others, analog modelled plugins, for example, as mentioned.
but i use all ad hoc, when it is necessary. that they are 'digital' i don't mind, i like that, mainly because the sounds i work with (home brewed), are already, well, it depends, haha. but mostly they don't need an analog treatment, i use analog treatments not for the analog, but for the sound...
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- KVRAF
- 19879 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I hate to be the guy that beats a dead horse especially when the developer won't even see me do the beating but since you brought it up this has always been my number one complaint with Melda.StroboMarc wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:40 pm ...we're almost in 2022 with v15 of the plugins and installing 32bit is still mandatory, so is installing data that is not needed and the uninstaller even leaves piles of this data behind...
When I just installed the v15 update for the three out of the 112 plugins of his I own I watched the installer countdown from over 6,700 files it was installing including .flac files that none of the plugins I own use. Thousands of preset and support files for plugins I don't even own in multiple locations. There is no reason one (non-convolution) Reverb,one EQ, and one Delay plugin need thousands of files to operate.
As you say we're almost in 2022 so there's no reason his installer can't just install the files needed for the plugins you're installing and nothing else. It already allows you to select only the plugins you want to install so it shouldn't be a huge leap to not install files that aren't need by those plugins.
I've always found his insistence on spewing useless files all over our hard drives to be sloppy, lazy, and quite frankly disrespectful of his customer's systems as I'm sure we all want to keep our studio computers as lean and efficient as possible.
Ok I'll put the stick down now but if that horse even so much as twitches I may start beating it again........
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- 1779 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
It's a pity they've got a shitty installer. You have to download all their plugins, half a gigs worth just to trial one plugin. Completely retarded!!!
Oh well, I'll have to give their MAutoVolume a miss.
Anyone know of another brand that offers an auto volume plugin?
Oh well, I'll have to give their MAutoVolume a miss.
Anyone know of another brand that offers an auto volume plugin?
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