Anyone have any new info on Tantra 2?>

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For me, the UI is a huge and modern update to an outdated version 1 that was a bit too carnival-like.

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Bodhisan wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:05 pm For me, the UI is a huge and modern update to an outdated version 1 that was a bit too carnival-like.
+1

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Never been into Tantra v1 - but this update seems to be a mostly cosmetic / code-thing, right?
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Something tells me that the choice to sell the plugin through PA has closed any upgrade path for Tantra 1 owners, right? Not a big fan of the new GUI here - actually I am really happy with the first one designed by Voger Design and tbh I see no convincing reason to upgrade as of now. Therefore I will wait for a too-good-to-be-true sale, or skip 2.

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emanuelsj wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:04 pm Something tells me that the choice to sell the plugin through PA has closed any upgrade path for Tantra 1 owners, right?
No there is an upgrade path - email said 'Upgrade path: Tantra 1 owners can upgrade to Tantra 2 for only $49.99. Please get in touch with the DS Audio Customer Support'

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Sorry Dmitry I admire you a great deal but even at $9.99 the upgrade would be a hard pass for me due in large part to the GUI.

All I can say is I'm glad now you have the time to work on the new synth or Diversion 2 but please get some feedback or help with GUI design going forward. Your earlier plugins are great looking. No need to change styles just for fashion's sake.
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Teksonik wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:45 pm Sorry Dmitry I admire you a great deal but even at $9.99 the upgrade would be a hard pass for me due in large part to the GUI.

All I can say is I'm glad now you have the time to work on the new synth or Diversion 2 but please get some feedback or help with GUI design going forward. Your earlier plugins are great looking. No need to change styles just for fashion's sake.
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I think the new GUI is way better. I'd love to see a similar refresh of Thorn.

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$49.99 seems a lot for not a lot of new features. Don't like the GUI, the modules don't even move to show the signal flow order. All seems very disappointing and odd to me. :shrug:

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aMUSEd wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:16 pm
emanuelsj wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:04 pm Something tells me that the choice to sell the plugin through PA has closed any upgrade path for Tantra 1 owners, right?
No there is an upgrade path - email said 'Upgrade path: Tantra 1 owners can upgrade to Tantra 2 for only $49.99. Please get in touch with the DS Audio Customer Support'
Thanks for the pricing info but according to me $49.99 is way too much for what it brings to the table. In my case Gatekeeper replaced Tantra 1 some while ago, even if it doesn't have the FX modules. Spending this amount for upgrading a plugin that I will end up not using is a bit much for me. Therefore I will wait for better discounts.

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emanuelsj wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:02 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:16 pm
emanuelsj wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:04 pm Something tells me that the choice to sell the plugin through PA has closed any upgrade path for Tantra 1 owners, right?
No there is an upgrade path - email said 'Upgrade path: Tantra 1 owners can upgrade to Tantra 2 for only $49.99. Please get in touch with the DS Audio Customer Support'
Thanks for the pricing info but according to me $49.99 is way too much for what it brings to the table. In my case Gatekeeper replaced Tantra 1 some while ago, even if it doesn't have the FX modules. Spending this amount for upgrading a plugin that I will end up not using is a bit much for me. Therefore I will wait for better discounts.
Yes but that’s different- there is still an upgrade path, even if not the most generous one, but we all know all PA roads lead to $29 sooner or later

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bonch wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:31 pm I think the new GUI is way better. I'd love to see a similar refresh of Thorn.
The trouble is it's not a refresh but a retrograde to 2005 freeware level and that's probably an insult to freeware in 2005. Style is a matter of personal taste but from a purely functional standpoint the new GUI is a huge step back....all in my opinion of course.

That's why I suggested he get some feedback before changing anything else. I'd hate to see Thorn or Diversion get a similar treatment as Tantra. :?
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Here's a perfect example. Tantra 1 is on top and on the bottom of the image you can see Tantra 2's FX routing boxes or to be more precise you can barely see them.

I don't know if Dmitry did the GUI on a HiDPI system without checking how it looks on other systems or not. The screenshot is from a 1920x1080 monitor and as you can see Tantra 1 is very clear and Tantra 2 is barely readable. (KVR compression adds a bit more fuzz).


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This is what I see.
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bonch wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:55 pm This is what I see.

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What resolution are you running?
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