rob papen - predator 3

[Norqa]

Predator 3 video have a very nice "Ensoniq" vibe to them like at the 14:58 mark of the video but then that patch is in P2 as well "Bell2 VoiceSynth". Very lovely stuff....

And a bit like a PPG.

[Teksonik]

Indeed.

[dblock]

It says in the description that Predator3 "combines" a large library of over 6400 quality presets so I wonder how many presets are actually new.

[crickey13]

I like the way Predator sounds, but I've seen some people call it "warmer than Massive", which is misleading. It is warm, but in a firmly digital way and in order to get to the more analog sounds, you need to tweak it quite a bit.

I find that it is a very peculiar sounding synth, it's very hard to put it in words, it sounds oldschool in the digital sort of way, which is unique with all the wavetable synths trying to sound as modern and clean as possible.

[Effectsworks]

Rob said in the stream that the sound engine was slightly changed, it was partly taken code from BIT (the newer Rob Papen synth). Rob also said in the video that Predator 3 probably sounds a little brighter than Predator 2. But you certainly have to listen very carefully, I could not hear anything special in the video.
New filter types (zero delay) have been added, so it's not just a tidier GUI. If I understood correctly, he will make another video/stream about Predator 3 (currently there are still some bugs in the GUI that he wants to fix first).

I like Predator. Nicer GUI and new filters are always welcome. Looks more of a .5 release, however. I'm definitely going to upgrade though.

[THE INTRANCER]

This was the response to my thoughts and suggestions from Rob on youtube.

" Thanks for the input. The red waveform in the oscillator section also can be set to white. About the other ideas, well that is beyond the concept of Predator-3 and the workflow and for sure the XY as it is now is an essential part. It always should be visual."

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It would seem that Predator 3 isn't planned to evolve in development in the same way that U-HE, looks forward in development with his devices other than a few bug fixes. By the way in which he states something to be always visible, that would to me mean that it's a permanent fixture always to be seen. A separate keyboard is said to be impossible due to its size but I don't see why there couldn't be a mini keyboard to display of some sort if not part of where the XY-Pad is, but part of the main display on a separate page, chords could be displayed there also.

[DJErmac]

I’ve never been a fan of Predator because of its lack of crispiness. Warm ? Sure. But this time, for some reason I’m excited with this release. I’ll try it.

[Seelachsfilet]

I wished they would make an entirely new GUI from scratch. A reskin \ update is not enough, the competition is miles ahead

[classic]

No demo version jet

[pierb]

I like the way Predator sounds, but I've seen some people call it "warmer than Massive", which is misleading. It is warm, but in a firmly digital way and in order to get to the more analog sounds, you need to tweak it quite a bit.

I find that it is a very peculiar sounding synth, it's very hard to put it in words, it sounds oldschool in the digital sort of way, which is unique with all the wavetable synths trying to sound as modern and clean as possible.

All their products sound (and look) from 20 years ago to me.

[Effectsworks]

When will it be released, or has Rob said?

Ta'.

[MartyK]

When will it be released, or has Rob said?

Ta'.

In 10 days.

[dblock]

I like the way Predator sounds, but I've seen some people call it "warmer than Massive", which is misleading. It is warm, but in a firmly digital way and in order to get to the more analog sounds, you need to tweak it quite a bit.

I find that it is a very peculiar sounding synth, it's very hard to put it in words, it sounds oldschool in the digital sort of way, which is unique with all the wavetable synths trying to sound as modern and clean as possible.

All their products sound (and look) from 20 years ago to me.

I tend to agree generally speaking. I bought most of Papen's synths mainly for their generous amount of presets which I found pretty usable for composing. I don't get deep into synthness so I don't have that appreciation for some of the features that real synth guys might look for. Sound wise, I was never particularly impressed but to be fair, I do like that every single preset isn't overly saturated in reverb and delays.I tend to use his synths more in supporting roles than as a main synth at least so far. I'd be surprised if the sound was noticeably improved though because as you said, none of those synths sound different than the other to my ears though I'll most likely buy this one too for support stuff plus it looks less depressing and easier to look at than previous versions.

[Teksonik]

I've spent some more time with Predator 2 in the last couple of days and it really is a lovely sounding synth. Do all Rob Papen synths have a similar character? Perhaps to a degree but they all have character and that's what is important to me.

On the subject of making our own patches has anyone figured out how to convert .wav files into P2's proprietary .uwv format ?

You can load "user waves" but only in the .uwv format unless I'm missing something. There are tons of single cycle waveforms available that would be nice to create Wavesets with in Predator.

Hopefully the ability to load files in .wav format will be added in Predator 3. Also hoping for more GUI sizes such as are found in Blade 2....100, 125, 150, 200%.

EDIT: I tried to simply rename a .wav file to .uwv and that did not work.

[Effectsworks]

When will it be released, or has Rob said?

Ta'.

In 10 days.

Thanks!